Page 13 of 16 FirstFirst ... 31112131415 ... LastLast
Results 121 to 130 of 153

Thread: House OKs $787B stimulus bill with GOP opposition

  1. #121
    ANTI**ANTIFA
    ReverendHellh0und's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    Temple of Solomon
    Last Seen
    12-15-17 @ 06:22 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    75,740

    Re: House OKs $787B stimulus bill with GOP opposition

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    Or it could be used to send these mice to Mars.



    You fail at mindreading. I have criticized him and you have thanked those posts. Just like you have given him credit and you point to that when people accuse you of ODS. Why don't you grow up? You say that you give what you get. Where did I accuse you of ODS in this thread?



    I am sick and grumpy today. Dont mind me....



    Why the hell would we want to save rats or mice in a city anyway?
    Let evil swiftly befall those who have wrongly condemned us

  2. #122
    I'm not-low all the time
    Kushinator's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    West Loop
    Last Seen
    Today @ 12:19 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    16,263

    Re: House OKs $787B stimulus bill with GOP opposition

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    The backlash from bad investments on overvalued investments has brought us here. Confidence has been lost. Without an injection of capital into the system, we may have zero private investment.

    I just refuse to accept the notion that such a puny injection fix's an estimated $20 trillion in lost wealth in the US alone.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

  3. #123
    Bus Driver to Hell
    Thorgasm's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Last Seen
    12-14-17 @ 06:57 PM
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    68,198

    Re: House OKs $787B stimulus bill with GOP opposition

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    I am sick and grumpy today. Dont mind me....



    Why the hell would we want to save rats or mice in a city anyway?
    I don't think wetlands count for "in the city".
    Quote Originally Posted by faithful_servant View Post
    Being a psychiatric patient does not mean that you are mentally ill.



  4. #124
    Bus Driver to Hell
    Thorgasm's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Last Seen
    12-14-17 @ 06:57 PM
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    68,198

    Re: House OKs $787B stimulus bill with GOP opposition

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    I just refuse to accept the notion that such a puny injection fix's an estimated $20 trillion in lost wealth in the US alone.
    I don't think it is a complete fix nor was it passed off as one.
    Quote Originally Posted by faithful_servant View Post
    Being a psychiatric patient does not mean that you are mentally ill.



  5. #125
    ANTI**ANTIFA
    ReverendHellh0und's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    Temple of Solomon
    Last Seen
    12-15-17 @ 06:22 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    75,740

    Re: House OKs $787B stimulus bill with GOP opposition

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    I don't think wetlands count for "in the city".



    so what you are saying is we know little about it.


    How about. Can you think of a better way to stimulate the economy other than mice conservation?
    Let evil swiftly befall those who have wrongly condemned us

  6. #126
    Bus Driver to Hell
    Thorgasm's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Last Seen
    12-14-17 @ 06:57 PM
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    68,198

    Re: House OKs $787B stimulus bill with GOP opposition

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    so what you are saying is we know little about it.


    How about. Can you think of a better way to stimulate the economy other than mice conservation?
    Yes I can. I never said that this was the best way. I just said that the money would find it's way into the economy.
    Quote Originally Posted by faithful_servant View Post
    Being a psychiatric patient does not mean that you are mentally ill.



  7. #127
    I'm not-low all the time
    Kushinator's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    West Loop
    Last Seen
    Today @ 12:19 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    16,263

    Re: House OKs $787B stimulus bill with GOP opposition

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    I don't think it is a complete fix nor was it passed off as one.
    If this stimulus undershoots the said GDP shortfall, stagflation will most definitely occur. If stagflation is the result, then the government should not have done anything. Recapitalization would have been a much wiser decision.

    The key is attracting the estimated $8 trillion in private capital just sitting on the sidelines. This bill fails to do so, at least in my opinion.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

  8. #128
    Bus Driver to Hell
    Thorgasm's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Last Seen
    12-14-17 @ 06:57 PM
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    68,198

    Re: House OKs $787B stimulus bill with GOP opposition

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    I am sick and grumpy today.
    I hope you feel better.
    Quote Originally Posted by faithful_servant View Post
    Being a psychiatric patient does not mean that you are mentally ill.



  9. #129
    Human 2.0
    Maximus Zeebra's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    Western Europe
    Last Seen
    09-07-17 @ 10:19 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    6,568

    Re: House OKs $787B stimulus bill with GOP opposition

    If a family takes on debts to increase their living standards and then all of the sudden they have taken on too much debt, is it then sane to borrow money to sustain the living standard or pay back the debt and reduce the living standard?

    If a family takes on debt to increase their living standards, are they really getting richer or actually poorer?

    The basic principles also do apply to nations, thus borrowing to sustain a living standard which is above ones ability, a standard that has been reached by debt in the first place, its unsustainable and an economic fallacy, thus making the nation even poorer by taking on more debt, not richer, and not in any way being a rescue package.
    Europe is illegally occupied by the US

  10. #130
    Sage
    Harry Guerrilla's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Not affiliated with other libertarians.
    Last Seen
    09-01-17 @ 02:38 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    28,955

    Re: House OKs $787B stimulus bill with GOP opposition

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    Thanks for your consideration. I expected the dogpile when I posted. It's entirely fair.
    Your welcome


    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    I just worry about the cost on society as a whole in learning this lesson. You are right about the lessons that need to be learned. But we are all interconnected and these lessons won't be learned in a vacuum.
    I personally believe that if we continue to be enablers this cycle will forever happen until the inevitable real collapse.

    It is a hard lesson to learn. We have come to far for it not to have a significant hurt. It is to late for that not to happen.
    I was discovering that life just simply isn't fair and bask in the unsung glory of knowing that each obstacle overcome along the way only adds to the satisfaction in the end. Nothing great, after all, was ever accomplished by anyone sulking in his or her misery.
    —Adam Shepard

Page 13 of 16 FirstFirst ... 31112131415 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •