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    Re: House OKs $787B stimulus bill with GOP opposition

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    Link to digging ditches and filling them back up?
    No need to provide such a link -- it was an illustration representative of governmental busywork that simply pays someone to do something that does nothing to actually stimulate the economy.

    Still wondering about the difference?

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    Re: House OKs $787B stimulus bill with GOP opposition

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    No need to provide such a link -- it was an illustration representative of governmental busywork that simply pays someone to do something that does nothing to actually stimulate the economy.

    Still wondering about the difference?
    So your answer is to let those people be laid off and that will stimulate the economy?

    Who's being simplistic here?
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    Re: House OKs $787B stimulus bill with GOP opposition

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    This is true. Doing nothing will lead to double digit unemployment and more welfare. It's a catch 22.
    It seems like everyone is dog piling you so I'll let this be my last comment.

    I agree that unemployment may be slightly heavy short term but in the long run letting the recession run its course will yield better results.

    The economy is unbalanced and it needs to correct itself.
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    Re: House OKs $787B stimulus bill with GOP opposition

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Show me where 30 million bucks spent, will stimulate the economy with some 40k a year jobs.


    can you do more than speculate please.
    People working is a good thing. People who make 40K a year spend money. They pay their mortgages. They make car payments. What is so hard to understand about that?

    Do you think unemployed people stimulate the economy?
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    Re: House OKs $787B stimulus bill with GOP opposition

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    People working is a good thing. People who make 40K a year spend money. They pay their mortgages. They make car payments. What is so hard to understand about that?

    Do you think unemployed people stimulate the economy?



    30 million taken out of the economy to give a few people 40k jobs....



    It's like dumping your last bucket of water on your head to take a drink.




    This was a lib pet project, no stimulous about it.
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    Re: House OKs $787B stimulus bill with GOP opposition

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    It seems like everyone is dog piling you so I'll let this be my last comment.

    I agree that unemployment may be slightly heavy short term but in the long run letting the recession run its course will yield better results.

    The economy is unbalanced and it needs to correct itself.
    I don't mind the dogpile. You don't have to bow out.

    It is certainly debateable as to what the ramifications of letting the bubble pop would be. A slow deflation of the bubble will be less traumatic. Many states couldn't handle the increased demand on their resources. I can agree a correction is in order. How we go about that is where the difference lies.
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    Re: House OKs $787B stimulus bill with GOP opposition

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    30 million taken out of the economy to give a few people 40k jobs....



    It's like dumping your last bucket of water on your head to take a drink.




    This was a lib pet project, no stimulous about it.
    How is 30 mil being taken out of the economy? You are implying that this money will just be put into a savings account and not be spent.

    It is a pet project, I can agree. The money will still be spent in our economy.
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    Re: House OKs $787B stimulus bill with GOP opposition

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    So your answer is to let those people be laid off and that will stimulate the economy?
    No. MY answer is evident from my post, and it's got nothing to do with what you said.

    The difference has been explained to you. You have failed to address that difference three times.

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    Re: House OKs $787B stimulus bill with GOP opposition

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    How is 30 mil being taken out of the economy? You are implying that this money will just be put into a savings account and not be spent.

    It is a pet project, I can agree. The money will still be spent in our economy.


    you have yet to establish that 30 million of our money will be spent in our economy.
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    Re: House OKs $787B stimulus bill with GOP opposition

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    No. MY answer is evident from my post, and it's got nothing to do with what you said.

    The difference has been explained to you. You have failed to address that difference three times.
    You claimed this would be taxing people to create jobs. That is false.

    People who work buys goods. This creates demand for goods. More demand for goods means that businesses make a profit and then can expand.

    So yes, even ditchdiggers help the economy. You can't expand a business with extra tax breaks. Supply isn't the problem. Demand is.
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