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    Re: Gregg withdraws as commerce secretary nominee

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    Private citizens have more guns than the government.
    ONE private citizen does not have more guns than the government.
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    Re: Gregg withdraws as commerce secretary nominee

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    Gregg withdraws as commerce secretary nomineeAmerican. Knock off the trolling/attacks.
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    Re: Gregg withdraws as commerce secretary nominee

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    ONE private citizen does not have more guns than the government.
    What's the purpose of this mischaracterization of my argument?

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    Re: Gregg withdraws as commerce secretary nominee

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    Barack Obama garnered more votes than “ANY” Presidential candidate in this country’s history, 69,456,897 votes! He got more than 7.4 million more votes than Bush’s best showing in 2004, in which Bush only won by 2.4% with 62,040,610 votes.

    7.4 million!

    According to the U.S. Census...
    U.S. population in July 2008 is estimated at.... 303,824,640.
    U.S. population in July 2004 was................... 293,655,404.

    Now bear with me. We subtract the smaller number from the larger number and we get a population increase, between 2004 and 2008, of: 10,169,236.

    I don't know what kind of adjustment you want to make here buuuut, this shows that with his 7.4 million vote winning margin Obama picked up approx. 72% of the population increase from '04 to '08. And he won by 5% "more" than Bush did.

    That's HUUUUUGE!

    In other words... Obama won by a lot more than Bush did...
    especially "when population growth is figured in".

    Ain't numbers grrrrrreat? They really help to keep people honest and stops them from using failed rhetoric to explain away their losing arguments.
    Your numbers are wrong, but so was I. The last time I did this calculation was shortly after the election, and the results were probably not complete at that time. I'm not sure what your excuse is though:

    Obama 2008 66,882,230 http://www.infoplease.com/us/governm...e-summary.html
    Bush 2004 62,028,285 http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0922901.html

    US Population 2004 292,892,127; 2008 304,059,724 Detailed Tables - American FactFinder

    Obama 08 22.00% of population, Bush 04 21.18% of population.

    (22.00-21.18)/ 21.08 = 3.87%, not 5% as you stated, and hardly “huge”.

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    Re: Gregg withdraws as commerce secretary nominee

    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Man View Post
    What's the purpose of this mischaracterization of my argument?
    I may have misunderstood you. I though you meant one person in your comment. That's what I responded to. No mischaracterization.
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    Re: Gregg withdraws as commerce secretary nominee

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I may have misunderstood you. I though you meant one person in your comment. That's what I responded to. No mischaracterization.
    Obviously I didn't mean one person had more guns than the feds. That would be stupid. Do you think that I am stupid?

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    Re: Gregg withdraws as commerce secretary nominee

    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Man View Post
    Obviously I didn't mean one person had more guns than the feds. That would be stupid. Do you think that I am stupid?
    I do not believe that I claimed you were stupid. Here's the thing. When someone says, "the government is not going to take my guns" (which is not what you said, btw, but which is what this argument implies), my response would be that if the government wants to take your guns, as in you, individually, either they are going to take them, or you are going to get killed. That is my argument. Not insulting you, just misunderstood what you are saying and made a different argument. No need to get defensive.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    Re: Gregg withdraws as commerce secretary nominee

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I do not believe that I claimed you were stupid. Here's the thing. When someone says, "the government is not going to take my guns" (which is not what you said, btw, but which is what this argument implies), my response would be that if the government wants to take your guns, as in you, individually, either they are going to take them, or you are going to get killed. That is my argument. Not insulting you, just misunderstood what you are saying and made a different argument. No need to get defensive.
    I'm not really sure how "Private citizens have more guns than the government." could be misconstrued other than at face value. *shrug*

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    Re: Gregg withdraws as commerce secretary nominee

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    Thank you for more accurately proving my point.

    As far as thinking that Bush would change anything in his Presidency... don't kid yourself. The man can't even admit he made one mistake during those disastrous 8 years. He wouldn't pardon that traitorous liar Libby even with Cheney breathing fire down his back! He would nev-ver change one single decision he ever made.

    Admitting a mistake and then changing it takes strength. It takes courage. It takes integrity. Bush is too much of a coward.
    We work together.

    Anything that moves or catches your view proves your point by the mere fact of its moving or catching your view.

    On my side you - by your reaction to any movement described above - keep on proving my point that Bams do not rise even to the level of the 4th grade of an elementary school.


    You still exhibit this behavior:


    YouTube - My Duracell Drumming Rabbit gone crazy

    like you are winded up no matter what moves in front of you or can get into your view.
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