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    Re: Will Iran ever normalize relations w/U.S.?

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    If the US begins to treat Iran as the ancient and respected culture it is, then we have the opportunity to forge a strong ally and trade partner.
    That is a joke, with a bunch of El-sickos(Mullahs) trying to run this uncivilized country..
    Never forget the embassy break-in and the taking of hostages - a criminal act by savages, still unpunished......
    Ancient is true - their so-called "culture" dates back to the stone age, and there they stay..

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    Re: Will Iran ever normalize relations w/U.S.?

    If France and Germany

    or France and England can be at peace with one another. Then American and Iran can.
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    Re: Will Iran ever normalize relations w/U.S.?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    That is a joke, with a bunch of El-sickos(Mullahs) trying to run this uncivilized country..
    Never forget the embassy break-in and the taking of hostages - a criminal act by savages, still unpunished......
    Ancient is true - their so-called "culture" dates back to the stone age, and there they stay..
    Your post exposes your complete ignorance of Iran and it's people.

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    Re: Will Iran ever normalize relations w/U.S.?

    Quote Originally Posted by quatrotritikali View Post
    Geez, you really cannot read very well can you? I am not talking about two of anything, Joby. I'm talking about the President of Iran, which is Ahmadinejad...not the Ayatollah (who is the Spiritual Leader, along with the Supreme Council). And I have not mentioned the Ayatollah at all.
    TEHRAN, Iran - Iran is ready for dialogue with the United States, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said Tuesday, directly addressing the U.S. administration in his most measured remarks to America since President Barack Obama took office.

    "The new U.S. government has announced that it wants to create change and follow the path of talks. It's very clear that true changes should be fundamental and not tactical," Ahmadinejad said during a rally in Tehran to celebrate the 30th anniversary of the Islamic revolution that overthrew the U.S.-backed shah of Iran.

    "These talks should be held in a fair atmosphere in which there is mutual respect," he added, laying out a precondition for any discussions.

    Ahmadinejad wrote several unanswered letters to Bush and congratulated Obama on his election victory. Still many Iranian officials are suspicious of renewed relations between the nations.

    "If pro-American tendencies come to power in Iran, we have to say goodbye to everything. After all, anti-Americanism is among the main features of our Islamic state," said Ayatollah Ahmad Jannati, head of the Guardian Council, an assembly of 12 appointed clerics and jurists who have the power to vet laws and election candidates, in remarks 10 days ago.
    In your story, the President of Iran never says anything distinctly anti-American, and it goes on to say that Ahmadinejad has the support of the Supreme Council. From the story,

    "When he speaks, he does so with the approval of the Supreme National Security Council," a group that includes representatives of the country's religious, military and other power centers, said Mohammad Marandi, head of the North American studies department at the University of Tehran.

    "They will decide if Iran will really deal with the United States," Marandi said. "It's the United States that should send signals first. They need Iran more than we need them," he added. "Iran can help the U.S. in Iraq, Afghanistan. Pakistan is unraveling; Iran also wants security and stability in those nations. The fact that they now work separately makes it impossible to get things done."

    In March 2006 Iran's supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, decided that talking to America about Iraq was not a taboo, marking a shift in Iran's foreign policy toward the U.S.
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    Re: Will Iran ever normalize relations w/U.S.?

    Yes France and Germany eventually reached a point where they could stomache each other..

    But that wasn't when the NAZIS where in Germany!

    Which is basically what some people are telling us to do now..just be friends with the "Nazi" in Iran... they don't really mean it when they say they want to exterminate Jews..and yes we know they kill American Soldiers and sponsor terrorists globally but if we just feel their pain and learn to understand them it will be peace in our time.

    Problem is Obama actually believes that convoluted horse pucky and the regime in Iran will take full advantage of him.

    I expect all sorts of major threats from various countries to be facilitated and advanced to our detriment by Obama's need to declare himself some sort of peacemaker.

    He's willing and utterly capable of ignoring his own nations soldiers in preference to a speech he gave. He will sell out anyone to be praised.

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    Re: Will Iran ever normalize relations w/U.S.?

    Iran will never be attacked as long as it keeps the Persian Gulf open and allows the oil exports as well as other goods to flow. Does anyone remember not long ago when the Iranian government threatened to block the Gulf? That was when the U.S. was going to take action. After all, you don't threaten Big Oil®.

    In turn, the only reason why the U.S. opposes Iranian nuclear arms is not because of Israel or threats to the region, but because an Iranian nuclear deterrent means it actually gets its sovereignty back. It could close the Persian Gulf and tariff the trade route, and the U.S. would not be able to do anything about it.

    When are people going to peel back the religious veneer that the media and governments are using to spin current political conflicts, and see that it is pure economics?

    Iran does not want a nuclear war. It's all talk. A nuclear deterrent would be far more profitable for Iran than a war, and that's what it wants. There are enough moderates in the Iranian government to assure that greed takes precedence over fundamentalist looneyville Mullahs.

    If we ever catch wind that the moderates in their government have been murdered by the extreme right, then we should be worried. But that's not going to happen because they are all greedy and corrupt. Business means more to them than the Quran!
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    Re: Will Iran ever normalize relations w/U.S.?

    Quote Originally Posted by Triad View Post
    Yes France and Germany eventually reached a point where they could stomache each other..

    But that wasn't when the NAZIS where in Germany!

    Which is basically what some people are telling us to do now..just be friends with the "Nazi" in Iran... they don't really mean it when they say they want to exterminate Jews..and yes we know they kill American Soldiers and sponsor terrorists globally but if we just feel their pain and learn to understand them it will be peace in our time.

    Problem is Obama actually believes that convoluted horse pucky and the regime in Iran will take full advantage of him.

    I expect all sorts of major threats from various countries to be facilitated and advanced to our detriment by Obama's need to declare himself some sort of peacemaker.

    He's willing and utterly capable of ignoring his own nations soldiers in preference to a speech he gave. He will sell out anyone to be praised.
    No, I think what we are saying is that we (America) instigates trouble and then complain or feign outrage when our chickens come home to roost.

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    Re: Will Iran ever normalize relations w/U.S.?

    Quote Originally Posted by Joby View Post
    The President of Iran said that talks could begin, so long as they were based on mutual respect.

    It's the US which has kept normalization from going forward, not the other way around.
    LOL.

    How do you normalize relations with people who support terrorists, fund them to kill our troops in Iraq, took Americans hostage and claim they want to wipe Israel off the map?

    You talk to your enemy without preconditions and get your lunch handed to you, just as Kennedy had.

    They'll use the talks with The Great Satan, as they so lovingly call us, for their own benefit... and to the civilized world's detriment.

    Let the talks begin... they'll use Obama as a mop.
    It might be the best use of his head in the coming four years.
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