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    War against Taliban 'will be lost by autumn' unless strategy changes

    Article is here.

    Colonel John Nagl, who is a consultant on the war in Afghanistan, has announced that, unless our strategy is seriously altered, the Taliban will end up winning the war. He says that NOW is the time to get serious with Afghanistan.

    I completely agree. I am still angry that we abandoned this war to pursue the war in Iraq. Consider the following:

    1) Afghanistan is the nation where bin Laden trained the 911 attackers.

    2) Afghanistan is the nation that harbored bin Laden, and funded the same camps used to attack the United States.

    3) The Taliban is the same group that turned a nation into a staging area for attacks on the United States, and US interests elsewhere in the world.

    We should have taken them out immediately. Instead, we abandoned what we needed to do, in order to pursue war elsewhere. We need to finish the job we started, and we need to finish it in a decisive manner, and completely eliminate any threat to the United States.

    Once we have taken out the Taliban, then we can leave. We should not attempt to force Afghanistan into accepting our style of Democracy. Let them have whatever kind of government they want, even an Islamic Republic, if that's what suits them. But we should let them know that, should another 911 come from there, we will turn the whole nation into a new resort and fishing spot in Asia:

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    Re: War against Taliban 'will be lost by autumn' unless strategy changes

    You mean we haven't lost in Afghanistan already?

    I say let them install whatever damn sharia they want, i don't really care. It's not going to be the first Islamic country and it won't be the last.
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    Re: War against Taliban 'will be lost by autumn' unless strategy changes

    Oh great, another Bush bashing thread.
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    Re: War against Taliban 'will be lost by autumn' unless strategy changes

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Oh great, another Bush bashing thread.
    Other than you where was Bush mentioned?

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    Re: War against Taliban 'will be lost by autumn' unless strategy changes

    Bin Laden's plan was to bring economic collapse to America.


    So on that front, we lost.

    I'd say he did a great job of making the Buffalo herd fall down into the ravine.
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    Re: War against Taliban 'will be lost by autumn' unless strategy changes

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Oh great, another Bush bashing thread.
    Mrs. Clinton, for the record, you were the first to mention Bush. There was no partisan slandering in this.
    No body even hinted at Bush being responsible for the Iraq war. Nobody made any sort of claim. So, now please, focus on the topic at hand and not your wish to turn every thread into a partisan ruffling.
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    Re: War against Taliban 'will be lost by autumn' unless strategy changes

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Oh great, another Bush bashing thread.
    And if Obama doesn't step up to the plate, this will be another Obama bashing thread as well.

    Meanwhile, I will ask you nicely to stop trolling my thread.
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    Re: War against Taliban 'will be lost by autumn' unless strategy changes

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Oh great, another Bush bashing thread.
    I love how people are so blindly partisan that they can't take critque of our past actions or try to objectively view of the goals and methodology of realizing those goals. "another Bush bashing thread". First, Bush was never brought up. Second, grow up. We may at times have to look at what we're doing and try to evaluate if what we are doing is producing the results we wanted. And if they are not producing the results we wanted, we have to be adult enough to figure out what we need to change to produce those results. Afghanistan is a hot bed of terrorist activity. We never really finished the job in there before we got sidetracked. It is there where we can make the largest gains against the Taliban, and if the War on Terror is really a war on terror, then it is there we need to focus.
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    Re: War against Taliban 'will be lost by autumn' unless strategy changes

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    You mean we haven't lost in Afghanistan already?

    I say let them install whatever damn sharia they want, i don't really care. It's not going to be the first Islamic country and it won't be the last.
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    We already do. That is what "clear, hold, build" is all about.
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    Re: War against Taliban 'will be lost by autumn' unless strategy changes

    A good start would be buying the poppy crop from the afgan farmers.We cant hope to get them on our side whilst burning the most profitable part of their economy.
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