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    Re: War against Taliban 'will be lost by autumn' unless strategy changes

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    And if Obama doesn't step up to the plate, this will be another Obama bashing thread as well.

    Meanwhile, I will ask you nicely to stop trolling my thread.
    Then why not eliminate your predictability? Can't you let Bush go?
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    Re: War against Taliban 'will be lost by autumn' unless strategy changes

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Then why not eliminate your predictability? Can't you let Bush go?
    So Dan HAS to be bashing somebody with his thread? If you have nothing to say on the topic matter then say nothing at all. It would make this thread much less clustered.
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    Re: War against Taliban 'will be lost by autumn' unless strategy changes

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    So Dan HAS to be bashing somebody with his thread? If you have nothing to say on the topic matter then say nothing at all. It would make this thread much less clustered.
    Please don't feed the troll. Just ignore him, and let's get this discussion back on track.
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    Re: War against Taliban 'will be lost by autumn' unless strategy changes

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Please don't feed the troll. Just ignore him, and lets get this discussion back on track.
    Yes Dan, let's do. Bush is irrelevant and so is the past at this point. I support a change in strategy when it's needed. Hopefully we're listening to the boots on the ground.
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    Re: War against Taliban 'will be lost by autumn' unless strategy changes

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    Re: War against Taliban 'will be lost by autumn' unless strategy changes

    How can the Taliban win? How can anyone win this stupid war? There are no goalposts. What do we have to do to win except declare a victory? It's all in t he eye of the beholder. Let's assume we defeat the Taliban in Afghanistan (as impossible as that may be since they could be in any cave or in any civilian in any city). There is still equivalent organizations in other countries, not to mention children may grow up looking up to the Taliban and resurrect the group.
    Let's assume that we never uproot the Taliban, does the Taliban win? We withdraw, not because the Taliban intimidates us or because they've outgunned us. It's our decision to pull out. Do they declare victory?
    You can't win a war against terrorism because you have no target. You have no goalposts.

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    Re: War against Taliban 'will be lost by autumn' unless strategy changes

    Quote Originally Posted by Smoke[MaxX] View Post
    How can the Taliban win? How can anyone win this stupid war? There are no goalposts. What do we have to do to win except declare a victory? It's all in t he eye of the beholder. Let's assume we defeat the Taliban in Afghanistan (as impossible as that may be since they could be in any cave or in any civilian in any city). There is still equivalent organizations in other countries, not to mention children may grow up looking up to the Taliban and resurrect the group.
    Let's assume that we never uproot the Taliban, does the Taliban win? We withdraw, not because the Taliban intimidates us or because they've outgunned us. It's our decision to pull out. Do they declare victory?
    You can't win a war against terrorism because you have no target. You have no goalposts.
    I would consider killing bin Laden a win.
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    Re: War against Taliban 'will be lost by autumn' unless strategy changes

    Quote Originally Posted by Smoke[MaxX] View Post
    How can the Taliban win? How can anyone win this stupid war? There are no goalposts. What do we have to do to win except declare a victory? It's all in t he eye of the beholder. Let's assume we defeat the Taliban in Afghanistan (as impossible as that may be since they could be in any cave or in any civilian in any city). There is still equivalent organizations in other countries, not to mention children may grow up looking up to the Taliban and resurrect the group.
    Let's assume that we never uproot the Taliban, does the Taliban win? We withdraw, not because the Taliban intimidates us or because they've outgunned us. It's our decision to pull out. Do they declare victory?
    You can't win a war against terrorism because you have no target. You have no goalposts.
    Good point. I've always stated that fighting terrorism is not a winnable fight.


    We could, however, level the entirety of Pakistan and we might get Bin Laden and declare victory.

    You cannot kill Terrorism. Terror is a response based on the individual, therefore, there will always will be terrorism.
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    Re: War against Taliban 'will be lost by autumn' unless strategy changes

    Quote Originally Posted by Smoke[MaxX] View Post
    How can the Taliban win? How can anyone win this stupid war? There are no goalposts. What do we have to do to win except declare a victory? It's all in t he eye of the beholder. Let's assume we defeat the Taliban in Afghanistan (as impossible as that may be since they could be in any cave or in any civilian in any city). There is still equivalent organizations in other countries, not to mention children may grow up looking up to the Taliban and resurrect the group.
    Let's assume that we never uproot the Taliban, does the Taliban win? We withdraw, not because the Taliban intimidates us or because they've outgunned us. It's our decision to pull out. Do they declare victory?
    You can't win a war against terrorism because you have no target. You have no goalposts.
    The only way is to absolutely destroy the Taliban to the last man. No one has ever successfully controlled this land. So holding territory is futile, you must destroy the enemy completely, and not only in Afghanistan but Pakistan's northeast as well. Changing hearts is probably necessary too, but probably futile.
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    Re: War against Taliban 'will be lost by autumn' unless strategy changes

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I would consider killing bin Laden a win.
    It would just kill the poster boy and might even drive recruitment up.
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