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    Re: Man appears free of HIV after stem cell transplant

    Quote Originally Posted by JMak View Post
    Do we yet have an answer yet to what this poster was talking about?
    Obviously he is speaking about people accepting the benefits or potential of stem cell research.
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    Re: Man appears free of HIV after stem cell transplant

    I think the main issue here is that when we bring up "stem cells" in a discussion many automatically think "embryonic". The news outlets have been fairly quite on "adult" stem cells which come from cord blood or bone marrow out of fully grown adults. In one case there was a woman from China who was temporarily healed of paralysis through adult stem cells being used in a spinal procedure. To date, adult stem cell research has made some huge leaps in possible cures for major diseases while not being a partisan issue.

    In the future it might be best to be more specific on the type of cells used when discussing this issue. "Embryonic" stem cells are a very partisan issue.
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    Re: Man appears free of HIV after stem cell transplant

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    Obviously he is speaking about people accepting the benefits or potential of stem cell research.
    Who doesn't accept the benefits of such research?

    Maybe you mean that he meant that people are wising up to the benefits of such research? That's what I thought. But what does that really mean? Who is he talking about?

    I suspect that he's talking about those who oppose ESCR that relies on destroying embryoes. This instance of stem cell treatment doesn't address the argument about such ESCR.

    So who is he referring to?

    I think it was American that was criticized for bringing left/right politics into this thread, but I would contend, unless AA responds, that AA was the first.

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    Re: Man appears free of HIV after stem cell transplant

    Quote Originally Posted by Keorythe View Post
    I think the main issue here is that when we bring up "stem cells" in a discussion many automatically think "embryonic". The news outlets have been fairly quite on "adult" stem cells which come from cord blood or bone marrow out of fully grown adults. In one case there was a woman from China who was temporarily healed of paralysis through adult stem cells being used in a spinal procedure. To date, adult stem cell research has made some huge leaps in possible cures for major diseases while not being a partisan issue.

    In the future it might be best to be more specific on the type of cells used when discussing this issue. "Embryonic" stem cells are a very partisan issue.
    1) Adult stem cells normally are not culled from cord blood. Embryonic stem cells are.

    2) Adult stem cell research has been the only stem cell research to yield any treatments to date. I think the first embryonic stem cell treatment just entered trials and, interestingly enough, that treatment was not derived from ESCR relying on the destruction of embryoes.

    3) Adult stem cell research doesn't have the partisan disagreement that embryonic stem cells do because the adult stem cells don't have the associated moral and ethical implications that embryo-destroying ESCR does.

    Just sayin...not criticizing you.

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    Re: Man appears free of HIV after stem cell transplant

    Quote Originally Posted by JMak View Post
    1) Adult stem cells normally are not culled from cord blood. Embryonic stem cells are.

    2) Adult stem cell research has been the only stem cell research to yield any treatments to date. I think the first embryonic stem cell treatment just entered trials and, interestingly enough, that treatment was not derived from ESCR relying on the destruction of embryoes.

    3) Adult stem cell research doesn't have the partisan disagreement that embryonic stem cells do because the adult stem cells don't have the associated moral and ethical implications that embryo-destroying ESCR does.

    Just sayin...not criticizing you.
    Immune system stem cells are harvested from cord blood and they are the same as adult stem cells from bone marrow or peripheral blood.

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    Re: Man appears free of HIV after stem cell transplant

    Quote Originally Posted by Alex View Post
    Immune system stem cells are harvested from cord blood and they are the same as adult stem cells from bone marrow or peripheral blood.
    Qualifier - I am not a scientists, so bear with me.

    I thought that immune system stem cells were only available from bone marrow.

    Nonetheless, are adult stem cells commonly harvested from cord blood? I thought that the answer was no.
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    Re: Man appears free of HIV after stem cell transplant

    Quote Originally Posted by JMak View Post
    Qualifier - I am not a scientists, so bear with me.

    I thought that immune system stem cells were only available from bone marrow.

    Nonetheless, are adult stem cells commonly harvested from cord blood? I thought that the answer was no.
    Stem cells harvested from umbilical cord blood are multipotent. Embryonic stem cells are totipotent. Totipotent cells have the capacity, I believe, to be turned into most any type of cell while adult stem cells and cord stem cells are more limited.

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    Re: Man appears free of HIV after stem cell transplant

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Looks like several people failed to read everything. What potential, what everyone cheering about?
    Yes, because people with AIDS aren't already at risk for dying or even poor health.

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    Re: Man appears free of HIV after stem cell transplant

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I'm not against stem cell research, but I am against the rabid insistance by liberals that embryonic stem cell research is the best and only way to achieve cures. It's just another cover for abortion. Don't tell me it's not true, because the left extremists don't pump up the success of adult stem cell research. Nevertheless, the man plainly stated that this is extremely risky with little proven benefit. One patient doesn't prove the success of a process.
    Risky? Riskier than HIV?
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    Re: Man appears free of HIV after stem cell transplant

    I'm extremely excited about stem cell research and I don't give a rats ass whether it's embryonic or otherwise. I'll let the special interest/pro-life/pro-choice whoevers argue their religion and morality to their hearts content. It doesn't effect me one way or the other except when it blocks potentially life saving/quality of life improving medical science.

    I have a degenerative retinopathy that has no cure or even a treatment to slow the progression of the disease. I'll probably be blind within the next ten to fifteen years. Right now stem cell research has shown great promise in potentially curing so many diseases, mine included.

    This is extremely good to hear.
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