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    Re: Key Witnesses to Be Interviewed in Prosecutor Firings

    Isn't this like the 13th ****ing thread where you've posted that stuff, I've explained this **** to you and you've just run away?

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...time-talk.html

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...y-firings.html
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    Re: Key Witnesses to Be Interviewed in Prosecutor Firings

    This particular issue hounding "Don Bush's" reign of power is about much more than the firing of 7, or so, U.S. Attorneys. It's more about Don Bush running a basically corrupt party while he was in "our house".

    Despite the testimony of officials from this Administration, we are learning through press accounts that many more than seven U.S. Attorneys were replaced and that perhaps a dozen or two dozen or three dozen were considered for firing. It was only through press accounts -- not the testimony of Department employees or the selective documents the Department has so far produced -- that the public learned that one of our witnesses today, Todd Graves, the former U.S. Attorney for the Western District of Missouri, was on those lists and asked to resign. He is from an earlier wave of replacements in 2006.

    We have also learned in recent weeks about apparently extensive efforts by operatives of this Administration to screen the political allegiances of applicants for career law enforcement positions. Former Deputy Attorney General Jim Comey has said such efforts to apply a partisan litmus test strike “at the core of what the department is.” We know from her guarded admissions before the House Judiciary Committee that Monica Goodling “crossed the line” in engaging in this conduct. Who else at the Department was involved, who knew this was going on, who acquiesced or approved it, who directed it? These are all questions that the Department of Justice has refused to answer or explain.
    Panel Hears From Department Of Justice Official Schlozman, Fired U.S. Attorney Graves

    I'm sure you would like all of us non-Bushies to just go away and drop our concerns that Bush, and his cronies, were getting away with all the crimes they committed. Your rhetoric filled, non facts didn't work before so, what makes you think they'll convince us now? More and more, as the layers covering what BushCo really did are pulled back, we all will see just how corrupt that embarassment of a Presidency was.
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    Re: Key Witnesses to Be Interviewed in Prosecutor Firings

    The investigation is warranted, regardless of the final judgment. I find the timing and reasoning behind the firing of the attorneys to be suspect and outside of standard procedure. Given the political gravity of the times following 9-11, the war on terror, the implementation of the homeland security department, etc., I would want to know if anything seedy went on.

    I look forward to the results of the current investigation.

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    Re: Key Witnesses to Be Interviewed in Prosecutor Firings

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    This particular issue hounding "Don Bush's" reign of power is about much more than the firing of 7, or so, U.S. Attorneys. It's more about Don Bush running a basically corrupt party while he was in "our house".


    Panel Hears From Department Of Justice Official Schlozman, Fired U.S. Attorney Graves

    I'm sure you would like all of us non-Bushies to just go away and drop our concerns that Bush, and his cronies, were getting away with all the crimes they committed. Your rhetoric filled, non facts didn't work before so, what makes you think they'll convince us now? More and more, as the layers covering what BushCo really did are pulled back, we all will see just how corrupt that embarassment of a Presidency was.
    Are you just on autopilot, posting things without actually reading the responses? Do you have any idea what you're talking about?
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    Re: Key Witnesses to Be Interviewed in Prosecutor Firings

    Quote Originally Posted by HelloDollyLlama View Post
    The Bush gang fired U.S. attorneys for being too zealous in prosecuting Repulicans or insufficiently zealous in prosecuting Democrats. They turned the entire U.S. justice system into a sledgehammer to crush its political opponents with. There is a legal term for that -- obstruction of justice. One of their victims was a Democratic governor who was convicted illegally. And anybody who doesn't get that it's just plain wrong to use the federal government to persecute its enemies has chunky peanut butter where their brains ought to be.

    Glad I could help!
    Well, It MAY have been helpful, IF you had some facts to back up what you are claiming. However, a handful of excrement fresh from the anal cavity is not really that helpful.

    But THANKS anyway!
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    Re: Key Witnesses to Be Interviewed in Prosecutor Firings

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    I have a little hypothetical story I'd like to tell.

    Obama fires all of the Bush appointees, and hires his own. Before the first day on the job, Obama/Biden directs them to a meeting. They then proceed to tell them all that their main focus will be to go after Republican as much as possible. Focus on them, and witch-hunt them down.

    And if any Democrat is in trouble in regards to the law, to do aything possible to see that nothing comes of it.

    Is that okay with you, because they serve at the pleasure of the President?
    Considering he could just as easily PARDON every Democrat, leaving the attorneys to then only be able to prosecute republicans, sure why not?
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    Re: Key Witnesses to Be Interviewed in Prosecutor Firings

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    Again, the Dems have to clean up after the crooked Repukes and restore the intent of the U.S. Constitution back into the law.
    I didn't to post all that info but I did want to address this part;
    Changed interim appointment law in 2006

    As the controversy emerged, U.S. Senators were concerned about a little-noticed provision in the re-authorization of the USA PATRIOT Act in 2006 which eliminated the 120-day term limit on interim appointments of U.S. Attorneys made by the United States Attorney General to fill vacancies. The change gave the Attorney General greater appointment powers than the President and undermined the confirmation authority of the Senate. Presidential appointees must be confirmed by the Senate, but the Attorney's General did not require Senate confirmation.[28] The U.S. Senate was concerned that, in dismissing the U.S. Attorneys, the administration planned to fill the vacancies with its own choices, thus bypassing not only the Senate confirmation, but also the traditional consultation with Senators in the selection process. Congress rescinded the provision by very large majorities in March 2007.
    Some validity does exist here. The legislative GAVE UP their power to the executive branch. The law eliminated one of the checks and balances between the two branches. That what we get from hurried and urgent legislation that get shoved through Congress. I'm glad they learned a lesson and that will not happen again.

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    Re: Key Witnesses to Be Interviewed in Prosecutor Firings

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Link?

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    I got that wording from the DOJ report itself. Here's a good article by a law professor. It sounds legally correct.

    [I]t is not true that at the pleasure of the president allows the president to fire U.S. attorneys for any reason or, indeed, no reason at all.

    For example, it is a federal felony to "corruptly" endeavor "to impede any officer in or of any court of the United States in the discharge of his duty" or to "corruptly" obstruct or impede "the due administration of justice." If a president were to fire a U.S. attorney corruptly with the purpose of obstructing a particular criminal investigation, it would not be a permissible discharge.

    It is likewise a felony to receive a bribe in order to appoint any person to federal office. If a president were to discharge a U.S. attorney in order to make way for an appointment that was bought and paid for, that, too, would be impermissible.

    To take a third example, if a president were to fire a U.S. attorney because that official failed to discriminate among potential targets of prosecution on an intentionally partisan basis, he would be violating his oath to "protect and defend the Constitution." It would violate the First Amendment to intentionally discriminate between identically situated potential criminal defendants on the ground that some were Democrats and some were Republicans.

    Finally, the president is constitutionally obligated to "take care that the laws be faithfully executed," which is a ban on the willful suspension of statutes. Although this may seem the least-likely scenario, if a president were to fire U.S. attorneys in order to undermine the execution of otherwise constitutional laws, his behavior could plausibly be regarded as an impeachable offense.

    To President Bush's supporters, these scenarios may sound far-fetched. The problem, however, is that the Justice Department's explanations for what did happen have been so incomplete and inconsistent that Congress is no longer willing to give the administration its usual presumption of good faith.

    The Columbus Dispatch : Peter M. Shane: U.S. attorney firings poorly defended

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    Re: Key Witnesses to Be Interviewed in Prosecutor Firings

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Are you just on autopilot, posting things without actually reading the responses? Do you have any idea what you're talking about?
    "You're" the one ignoring what is being said in response to your posts!

    Take your own advice. There is more to this than Dems going after Repubs. You need to look below the right wing rhetoric.
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    Re: Key Witnesses to Be Interviewed in Prosecutor Firings

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix View Post
    Well, It MAY have been helpful, IF you had some facts to back up what you are claiming. However, a handful of excrement fresh from the anal cavity is not really that helpful.

    But THANKS anyway!
    I recommend seeing a proctologist/dentist for anal cavities.
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