That's because repubs flipped him the bird in the first 2 weeks. I know, you want democrats to roll over and do as they are told as if repubs were still in power. too bad, suck it up like democrats had to.Recall it who it was that made the point about Obama being The One to change the tone in Washington, to usher in a new era of bipartisnaship, to sit down and listen to everone that had ideas -- because solving problems was more important than partisan politics.
"Change" didnt last 2 weeks.
Obama:Democrats "reaching out" to Republicans:
Nancy Pelosi: We won.
Specifically, how did they do this?That's because repubs flipped him the bird in the first 2 weeks.
LOL... tax cuts, for who the rich? ... more of the same failed ideology. I say we have an 8 year moratorium on taxes for anyone making less than 200k and at the same time a 34-45% increase on the ****ers who got all the benefits of the last 8 years. How about that for a ****ing tax cut policy? :2wave:I think it's the opposite here only because this will not work. Plain and simple. What will work is a major cut in income taxes, like 35%-45% for two years. Result? Money and not just a George Bush check for ice cream. This puts $$$ back in to everything in this economy on every level.
So you're saying he didn't sit down with repubs and try to be bipartisan? I mean he's got 3 repubs in his cabinet... you guys just have selective memories.Specifically, how did they do this?
And even so -- didnt Obama say that he was The One to change the tone in Washington? To usher in a new era of bipartisnaship? To sit down and listen to everone that had ideas -- because solving problems was more important than partisan politics?
Did he lie?
It sounds like you're very interested in ensuring that the recession gets worse, all so you can stick it to the 'haves' in an effort to win political favor from the 'have nots'.LOL... tax cuts, for who the rich? ... more of the same failed ideology. I say we have an 8 year moratorium on taxes for anyone making less than 200k and at the same time a 34-45% increase on the ****ers who got all the benefits of the last 8 years. How about that for a ****ing tax cut policy?
Specifically, how did the GOP flip him the bird in the first 2 weeks?So you're saying he didn't sit down with repubs and try to be bipartisan? I mean he's got 3 repubs in his cabinet... you guys just have selective memories.
So you're saying he didn't sit down with repubs and try to be bipartisan? I mean he's got 3 repubs in his cabinet... you guys just have selective memories.
Yeah, that's exactly what the republicans are saying, "Do it our way or else". They seem to forget that they lost big in the last 2 elections. Maybe... just maybe the majority of the country doesn't want it the republican way anymore.
Republicans are playing this pretty riskily.
If this bill is even remotely a success, then they are going to have a damn hard time finding their seats in a few years.
I agree that partisanship is in play, but that works both ways. While Bush was in power, it was a "my way or the highway" approach, and Democrats were constantly shut out of negotiations. Now that Democrats are in power, they don't see why they can't do the same thing.
Having said that, it doesn't make it right. In fact, it is wrong, whether done by Republicans or Democrats, and that is one of the problems with our political system.
Waaaaahhh...
When repubs are in control it's:
"shut up and sit down, we are in charge and you'll do as we decide"
When repubs are NOT in charge it's:
"they won't let us have our way those, nasty democrats"
When Obama became President he stuck his hand through the fence and said "let's work together ok? It's for the good of the country" and then repubs bit that hand. So, now that they've taken a chunk out of the Presidents hand they want to whine that they aren't included in the process and won't do ANYTHING unless they get their way?
I say **** the repubs since THEY have shown that there will be partisan games.
Now, is it reasonable to assume that because the democrats have been told to sit down and shut up for 10 of the last 12 years, including being held at gun point for the last 2 due to obstructionism due to slim majority, does it seem reasonable that democrats might be a little less inclined to put up with republican bull****?
Dont forget the Patriot Act. Overwhelming bi-partisan support.There are no FACTS to support your bolded assertions; as a matter of fact, it is his BI-PARTISAN legislation people like you constantly RAIL against; The No Child Left Behind Act, the Medicare Drug Reform Act and the Joint Resolution on Iraq....all were part of the bi-partisan legislation of Bush's administration.
The Democrats consistently tried to reach out on the stimulus plan and the result was a whopping 2 senators voted for it and NO representatives did- after multiple revisions designed to make it more attractive across the aisle.
The Democrats tried, the Republicans weren't interested.
That's what you get when you wont play.
That's because repubs flipped him the bird in the first 2 weeks. I know, you want democrats to roll over and do as they are told as if repubs were still in power. too bad, suck it up like democrats had to.
They reached and said we aren't going to try it your way anymore; at least that is what Obama called, the failed policies of the last eight years is how he framed it.
What I find curious about this debate is that Democrats don't need Republicans, so why all the angst about not getting any support for their poorly thought out legislation that will strap generations of Americans in debt?
Dont forget the Patriot Act. Overwhelming bi-partisan support.
Spreading the risk.
You would be correct Goobsters; another one of the MANY bi-partisan acts the Democrats ran from politically.
I think he means afterwards.How can it be bi-partisan if one of the two parties ran from it?
The word I was thinking is "blame." :2wave:
If this bill is even remotely a success
It appears to me that Republicans really want the stimulus package to fail.
How can it be bi-partisan if one of the two parties ran from it?
New administration, same old bull****.