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    Re: Republicans Shut Out of Stimulus Conference Negotiations

    Quote Originally Posted by Slippery Slope View Post
    He didn't reach out to dems for it nor make any compromise for it. oh, and no link... you fail as usual.
    Senator Kennedy?
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    Re: Republicans Shut Out of Stimulus Conference Negotiations

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Senator Kennedy?
    Sorry but Bush didn't reach out to dems on it.

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    Re: Republicans Shut Out of Stimulus Conference Negotiations

    Quote Originally Posted by Slippery Slope View Post
    umm... doesn't that show that dems are more willing to by bi-partisan than repubs? Besides I thought I was responding to the particular practice of telling the opposition to sit down and shut up when they're in majority. try to follow along.
    Fascinating hyper partisan denial; yet I never made any such statements. I like it when Liberals open their mouths; they always make my case that they are liars or in denial of the facts and reality.

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    Re: Republicans Shut Out of Stimulus Conference Negotiations

    Quote Originally Posted by BWG View Post
    LOL...yeah, after the cons got their butt handed to them in the '06 elections, they decided they needed to work with the dems.
    So the Joint Resolution on Iraq, the Patriot Act, the Medicare Drug Reform Act, No Child Left Behind act and the Katrina Relief act were not bi-partisan legislation supported by BOTH sides of the aisle.

    I am sorry, but even your rabid hyper partisanship cannot deny those simple FACTS.

    The notion that Bush did not work WITH the Democrats on every major piece of legislation requires willful denial, or willful ignorance beyond the pale.

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    Re: Republicans Shut Out of Stimulus Conference Negotiations

    Quote Originally Posted by Slippery Slope View Post
    Sorry but Bush didn't reach out to dems on it.
    Good lord; this is like watching a little kid tell his parents that the dog ate his homework.

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    Re: Republicans Shut Out of Stimulus Conference Negotiations

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    So the Joint Resolution on Iraq, the Patriot Act, the Medicare Drug Reform Act, No Child Left Behind act and the Katrina Relief act were not bi-partisan legislation supported by BOTH sides of the aisle.

    I am sorry, but even your rabid hyper partisanship cannot deny those simple FACTS.

    The notion that Bush did not work WITH the Democrats on every major piece of legislation requires willful denial, or willful ignorance beyond the pale.
    There is quite a bit of difference between reaching across the isle to accomplish something and being involved in something that others are interested in. If you say - who wants to chip in for a big chocolate bar and I raise my hand, that's not bipartisanship because I already want the chocolate and if you aren't going to chip in I'll probably do it myself anyway.

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    Re: Republicans Shut Out of Stimulus Conference Negotiations

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Good lord; this is like watching a little kid tell his parents that the dog ate his homework.
    another unsolicited attack... so surprising.

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    Re: Republicans Shut Out of Stimulus Conference Negotiations

    Quote Originally Posted by Slippery Slope View Post
    There is quite a bit of difference between reaching across the isle to accomplish something and being involved in something that others are interested in. If you say - who wants to chip in for a big chocolate bar and I raise my hand, that's not bipartisanship because I already want the chocolate and if you aren't going to chip in I'll probably do it myself anyway.
    Not according to the dictionary:

    bi·par·ti·san (bī-pär'tĭ-zən, -sən) Pronunciation Key
    adj. Of, consisting of, or supported by members of two parties, especially two major political parties: a bipartisan resolution.

    But what you are really saying is that Bush promoted legislation that both Democrats and Republicans supported, so he didn't have to cajole the Dems into voting for it. Sounds to me like Bush involved both parties in the development of the legislation rather than telling the Dems to take it or leave it like the current mob does.

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    Re: Republicans Shut Out of Stimulus Conference Negotiations

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Not according to the dictionary:

    bi·par·ti·san (bī-pär'tĭ-zən, -sən) Pronunciation Key
    adj. Of, consisting of, or supported by members of two parties, especially two major political parties: a bipartisan resolution.

    But what you are really saying is that Bush promoted legislation that both Democrats and Republicans supported, so he didn't have to cajole the Dems into voting for it. Sounds to me like Bush involved both parties in the development of the legislation rather than telling the Dems to take it or leave it like the current mob does.
    I have learned that confusing Slippery with the OBVIOUS and the FACTS will only cause him to attempt to drag the thread into the circle of futility.

    But that stated, your comments are basically right on the mark.

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    Re: Republicans Shut Out of Stimulus Conference Negotiations

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Not according to the dictionary:

    bi·par·ti·san (bī-pär'tĭ-zən, -sən) Pronunciation Key
    adj. Of, consisting of, or supported by members of two parties, especially two major political parties: a bipartisan resolution.

    But what you are really saying is that Bush promoted legislation that both Democrats and Republicans supported, so he didn't have to cajole the Dems into voting for it. Sounds to me like Bush involved both parties in the development of the legislation rather than telling the Dems to take it or leave it like the current mob does.
    That really doesn't make much sense. Your definition of bipartisan is just that a republican and a democrat agreed. My definition is that they worked together and compromised in order to come to agreement. There is a difference. If Bush says I want to pass X legislation and dems say us too, it's bipartisan support but that doesn't mean Bush reached out.

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