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    Re: Republicans Shut Out of Stimulus Conference Negotiations

    Seriously? Republicans are whining about not being included in something they want no part of?
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    Re: Republicans Shut Out of Stimulus Conference Negotiations

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    Me too because if this stimulus package has a positive effect, the Republicans won't be able to claim that they assisted in such positive effect, and the Democrats can hopefully win more seats in Congress.
    If the Porkulus has a positive effect on the economy, than I will congratulate Dems on a successful gamble and be sincere in it! But for me, being a fiscal conservative above all else, this is too big a risk and I say that because the first TARP wasn't enough. I don't think it'll ever be enough, especially if pet projects are strewn throughout the bill that are not necessary for financial recovery.

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    Re: Republicans Shut Out of Stimulus Conference Negotiations

    Hopefully now the Federal Reserve, the most worthless fiscal organization hatched by the rich elite, can go down in flames and the U.S. can move on to a stable economic future.

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    Re: Republicans Shut Out of Stimulus Conference Negotiations

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    Considering that the only way you get a refund is to pay taxes then please explain how someone who doesn't pay taxes gets a tax break? You must have gotten grannys 45 point hot pink text email...
    I suppose you have never heard of a refundable tax credit?
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    Re: Republicans Shut Out of Stimulus Conference Negotiations

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    Pelosi"s funds for bird sanctuary, hybrid vehicles for gov't cars, smoking cessation activities, indian alcohol rehab program, 75 million tax cut for movie producers.... Shall I go on or can you go find the bill all by your big boy self? That's just the stuff off the top of my head.
    Not to mention:

    $44 million for repairs at the Agriculture Department headquarters in Washington.

    $200 million to rehabilitate the National Mall.

    $360 million for new child care centers at military bases.

    $1.8 billion to repair National Park Service facilities.

    $276 million to update technology at the State Department.

    $500 million for the Transportation Security Administration to install bomb detectors at airports.

    $600 million for General Services Administration to replace older vehicles with alternative fuel vehicles.

    $2.5 billion to upgrade low-income housing.

    $400 million for NASA scientists to conduct climate change research.

    $426 million to construct facilities at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

    $800 million to clean up Superfund sites.

    $150 million for the Coast Guard to repair or remove bridges deemed a hazard to navigation.

    $6.7 billion to renovate and improve energy efficiency at federal buildings.

    $400 million to replace the Social Security Administration's 30-year-old National Computer Center.


    Only 38% of the infrastructure money will be spent by the end of fiscal year 2010. This is not stimulus. We need stimulus NOW, not in 2011.
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    Re: Republicans Shut Out of Stimulus Conference Negotiations

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Not to mention:

    $44 million for repairs at the Agriculture Department headquarters in Washington.

    $200 million to rehabilitate the National Mall.

    $360 million for new child care centers at military bases.

    $1.8 billion to repair National Park Service facilities.

    $276 million to update technology at the State Department.

    $500 million for the Transportation Security Administration to install bomb detectors at airports.

    $600 million for General Services Administration to replace older vehicles with alternative fuel vehicles.

    $2.5 billion to upgrade low-income housing.

    $400 million for NASA scientists to conduct climate change research.

    $426 million to construct facilities at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

    $800 million to clean up Superfund sites.

    $150 million for the Coast Guard to repair or remove bridges deemed a hazard to navigation.

    $6.7 billion to renovate and improve energy efficiency at federal buildings.

    $400 million to replace the Social Security Administration's 30-year-old National Computer Center.


    Only 38% of the infrastructure money will be spent by the end of fiscal year 2010. This is not stimulus. We need stimulus NOW, not in 2011.
    And what stimulus would work here and now? And no, tax cuts do not work here and now, and it is highly unlikely that tax cuts would stimulate anything in the situation the US is in. So what exactly would stimulate here and now?

    Face it, everything you listed above requires workers to make and do. That means either people's jobs are saved or they have to hire someone to do it. Aint that what we want? To safe guard jobs and expand on jobs?

    As for the Republican's being shut out.. booohoooo, after 10+ years of marginalizing the other side and anyone who disagreed with them, it is about time they get some taste of their own medicine. Not to mention they have no plans other than tax cuts to contribute with.
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    Re: Republicans Shut Out of Stimulus Conference Negotiations

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    And what stimulus would work here and now? And no, tax cuts do not work here and now, and it is highly unlikely that tax cuts would stimulate anything in the situation the US is in. So what exactly would stimulate here and now?

    Face it, everything you listed above requires workers to make and do. That means either people's jobs are saved or they have to hire someone to do it. Aint that what we want? To safe guard jobs and expand on jobs?

    As for the Republican's being shut out.. booohoooo, after 10+ years of marginalizing the other side and anyone who disagreed with them, it is about time they get some taste of their own medicine. Not to mention they have no plans other than tax cuts to contribute with.
    See that's the trouble with you Pete, you lie about the facts. The Democrats were never shut out of the legilative process, so they're not giving the Republicans a taste of their own medicine. The Republicans gave a lot of power to the Dems even on committees. Why do you lie, what purpose could it serve? These programs listed create work, temporarily; creating jobs is is a permanent thing and only private industry can do that, not govt. Your ideas are short sighted and typical of liberal thinking.
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    Re: Republicans Shut Out of Stimulus Conference Negotiations

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    See that's the trouble with you Pete, you lie about the facts. The Democrats were never shut out of the legilative process, so they're not giving the Republicans a taste of their own medicine. The Republicans gave a lot of power to the Dems even on committees. Why do you lie, what purpose could it serve? These programs listed create work, temporarily; creating jobs is is a permanent thing and only private industry can do that, not govt. Your ideas are short sighted and typical of liberal thinking.
    Me lie about what? Did the Democrats not complain about the same thing during the reign of the Republican majority since the mid 1990s? I seem to remember how Republican's made the Democrats hold hearings in basement or similar locales because they did not agree with the hearing....
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    Re: Republicans Shut Out of Stimulus Conference Negotiations

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    Seriously? Republicans are whining about not being included in something they want no part of?




    This is moronic.


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    Re: Republicans Shut Out of Stimulus Conference Negotiations

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Me lie about what? Did the Democrats not complain about the same thing during the reign of the Republican majority since the mid 1990s? I seem to remember how Republican's made the Democrats hold hearings in basement or similar locales because they did not agree with the hearing....


    Once again, wtf are you talking about?
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