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    Report: 'Dirty bomb' parts found in slain man's home

    Police have found a huge stash of radioactive materials, along with instructions on how to build a dirty bomb, in the home of a man in Maine, after his wife had shot him to death.

    Islamist, you ask? Nope, just an American who applied to join a Neo-Nazi group. It is a mistake to keep thinking that the next 911 will come from the Middle East. Home grown terrorism is going to be a bigger problem. When tyrants are in power in America, it is natural that nut cases will come out of the woodwork and claim their own "Jihad", in the name of restoring the Republic, and we all know what kind of "restored Republic" these guys want, don't we. We would all be forced to Heil Hitler, and do the goose step, if these wackos were ever successful. They won't get far with their agenda, but they could do a hell of a lot of damage in the process, which is why, IMHO, they are just as dangerous as al-Qaeda.

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    Re: Report: 'Dirty bomb' parts found in slain man's home

    Why do you label people who fight tyrannts nutcases? Have you every read Thomas Jefferson? Do I support homemade nukes, of course not. Neo-Nazis are not about the American Way either, but if tyrannts are in power revolution may be necessary.
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    Re: Report: 'Dirty bomb' parts found in slain man's home

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Police have found a huge stash of radioactive materials, along with instructions on how to build a dirty bomb, in the home of a man in Maine, after his wife had shot him to death.

    Islamist, you ask? Nope, just an American who applied to join a Neo-Nazi group. It is a mistake to keep thinking that the next 911 will come from the Middle East. Home grown terrorism is going to be a bigger problem. When tyrants are in power in America, it is natural that nut cases will come out of the woodwork and claim their own "Jihad", in the name of restoring the Republic, and we all know what kind of "restored Republic" these guys want, don't we. We would all be forced to Heil Hitler, and do the goose step, if these wackos were ever successful. They won't get far with their agenda, but they could do a hell of a lot of damage in the process, which is why, IMHO, they are just as dangerous as al-Qaeda.

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    Going to have to disagree here. We have a precedent set by the Islamic groups as far as going the distance and keeping up a campaign. Neo-nazi, "restored republic" groups, or single entities like Timothy McVeigh can do damage by themselves but won't prosecute a campaign. They don't have anywhere near the sort of public support nor access to potential foreign aid/funding.

    Dirty bomb? Just one? I'm more afraid of someone who has a series of kinetic penetrators or other various IED's ala Iraq style than a single bomb. Single bomb people are those that want to make a statement. This guy went above and beyond getting the radioactive material for this thing. But explosives in general are easy to make (see youtube). Hypothetically I might have heard about some guy who hypothetically made some homemade Semtex, ANFO, and other explosives..."I cannot recall at this time". But actually using them? The kind of heat that would come down on any questionable "militia" or neo-nazi group would be harsh. They learned that lesson after the Oaklahoma bombing.

    Domestic terrorism is going to have to come from an imported cell or a homegrown cell with no immediate connections to the larger groups out there. They'll also have to be willing to die or risk incarceration. Too many local informants within those groups from other agencies following other potential illegal activities for that kind of stuff to not get noticed. The 9/11 guys are a perfect example.

    If there is a real revolution someday, its going to come in the form of a LARGE number of well armed people (civilian, ex-military, current military) with a great deal of public support. If military units start defecting, you'll know its the real deal.
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    Re: Report: 'Dirty bomb' parts found in slain man's home

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Police have found a huge stash of radioactive materials, along with instructions on how to build a dirty bomb, in the home of a man in Maine, after his wife had shot him to death.

    Islamist, you ask? Nope, just an American who applied to join a Neo-Nazi group. It is a mistake to keep thinking that the next 911 will come from the Middle East. Home grown terrorism is going to be a bigger problem. When tyrants are in power in America, it is natural that nut cases will come out of the woodwork and claim their own "Jihad", in the name of restoring the Republic, and we all know what kind of "restored Republic" these guys want, don't we. We would all be forced to Heil Hitler, and do the goose step, if these wackos were ever successful. They won't get far with their agenda, but they could do a hell of a lot of damage in the process, which is why, IMHO, they are just as dangerous as al-Qaeda.

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    They are nowhere near as dangerous to our government or society as al Qaeda and their kind.

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    Re: Report: 'Dirty bomb' parts found in slain man's home

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Why do you label people who fight tyrannts nutcases? Have you every read Thomas Jefferson? Do I support homemade nukes, of course not. Neo-Nazis are not about the American Way either, but if tyrannts are in power revolution may be necessary.
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    Re: Report: 'Dirty bomb' parts found in slain man's home

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Police have found a huge stash of radioactive materials, along with instructions on how to build a dirty bomb, in the home of a man in Maine, after his wife had shot him to death.

    Islamist, you ask? Nope, just an American who applied to join a Neo-Nazi group. It is a mistake to keep thinking that the next 911 will come from the Middle East. Home grown terrorism is going to be a bigger problem. When tyrants are in power in America, it is natural that nut cases will come out of the woodwork and claim their own "Jihad", in the name of restoring the Republic, and we all know what kind of "restored Republic" these guys want, don't we. We would all be forced to Heil Hitler, and do the goose step, if these wackos were ever successful. They won't get far with their agenda, but they could do a hell of a lot of damage in the process, which is why, IMHO, they are just as dangerous as al-Qaeda.

    Article is here.
    To bad she couldn't have just reported him so he could be surveiled to see if there are more invovled?

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    Re: Report: 'Dirty bomb' parts found in slain man's home

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    It is a mistake to keep thinking that the next 911 will come from the Middle East. Home grown terrorism is going to be a bigger problem.
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    Re: Report: 'Dirty bomb' parts found in slain man's home

    Quote Originally Posted by bhkad View Post
    There are people who still have the impression that the gummint is teh ebil empire.
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    Re: Report: 'Dirty bomb' parts found in slain man's home

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Do I support homemade nukes, of course not.
    Dirty-bomb is not a nuke. I used to work as an inspector using a gamma radioactive isotope to see through pipes and.... A dirty-bomb would be when you disperse a radioactive material using a bomb so that the people around get some form of radiation sickness when exposed to the disintegrated radioactive powder. In all reality probably wouldn't even be all too effective. You would need to disperse a huge amount of radioactive material to see effects. I wouldn't go near where it went off for a few years though anyways.

    I would be more scared of someone not blowing up the radioactive source duct taping it under a park bench.
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    Re: Report: 'Dirty bomb' parts found in slain man's home

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Police have found a huge stash of radioactive materials, along with instructions on how to build a dirty bomb, in the home of a man in Maine, after his wife had shot him to death.

    Islamist, you ask? Nope, just an American who applied to join a Neo-Nazi group. It is a mistake to keep thinking that the next 911 will come from the Middle East. Home grown terrorism is going to be a bigger problem. When tyrants are in power in America, it is natural that nut cases will come out of the woodwork and claim their own "Jihad", in the name of restoring the Republic, and we all know what kind of "restored Republic" these guys want, don't we. We would all be forced to Heil Hitler, and do the goose step, if these wackos were ever successful. They won't get far with their agenda, but they could do a hell of a lot of damage in the process, which is why, IMHO, they are just as dangerous as al-Qaeda.

    Article is here.
    I am struggling with the premise of your argument; what is it? That we have nothing to fear from Middle Eastern Terrorists? That we have LESS to fear from Middle Eastern Terrorists? That we have MORE to fear from White “Supremists” than we do Middle Eastern Terrorists? That we shouldn't be suspicious of Middle Eastern people at airports acting suspiciously?

    Help me out here big Dan.

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