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    Re: Report: 'Dirty bomb' parts found in slain man's home

    Quote Originally Posted by creativedreams View Post
    Here are some more people in the twilight zone...

    John F. Kennedy..."The high office of the President has been used to foment a plot to destroy the American's freedom and before I leave office, I must inform the citizen of this plight."

    J. Edgar Hoover..."We must now face the harsh truth that the objectives of communism are being steadily advanced because many of us do not recognize the means used to advanse them...The individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a Conspiracy so monsrous he cannot believe it exists. The American mind simply has not come to a realization of the evil which has been introduced into our midst."

    Albert Einstein..."The ruling class has the press under its thumb. This enables it to sway the emotions of the masses."
    That Kennedy quote is simply made up out of whole cloth and the other two are...well...not particularly enlightening.

    For the last time, keep this in the conspiracy theory forum.
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    Re: Report: 'Dirty bomb' parts found in slain man's home

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    That Kennedy quote is simply made up out of whole cloth and the other two are...well...not particularly enlightening.

    For the last time, keep this in the conspiracy theory forum.
    Then why is he dead?
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    Re: Report: 'Dirty bomb' parts found in slain man's home

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    Then why is he dead?
    ...I'm at a loss for words.
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    Re: Report: 'Dirty bomb' parts found in slain man's home

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    Then why is he dead?
    He was shot in the head.

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    Re: Report: 'Dirty bomb' parts found in slain man's home

    Quote Originally Posted by creativedreams View Post
    Here are some more people in the twilight zone...

    John F. Kennedy..."The high office of the President has been used to foment a plot to destroy the American's freedom and before I leave office, I must inform the citizen of this plight."
    fictitious...JFK never said this
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    Re: Report: 'Dirty bomb' parts found in slain man's home

    The problem with Neo-Nazi white supremacists is that they look, talk and act like an average American. They have ties to the local communities and to the US, and know the lay of the land. They also often cover their hatred in patriotic claims of defending the US, defending the constitution and bla bla, something many in the US would sympathise, especially on the right, where they are hiding among normal American's.

    Those are big differences with most average middle eastern Al-Q terrorist.

    So while the FBI and you are looking for the areeeb with the turban, John Smith from Kentucky sneaks in among you to do whatever... and you dont find that a problem? Or does the Neo Nazi movement have to start using road side bombs instead of other forms of violence before you take notice?
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    Re: Report: 'Dirty bomb' parts found in slain man's home

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    The problem with Neo-Nazi white supremacists is that they look, talk and act like an average American. They have ties to the local communities and to the US, and know the lay of the land. They also often cover their hatred in patriotic claims of defending the US, defending the constitution and bla bla, something many in the US would sympathise, especially on the right, where they are hiding among normal American's.
    I am sure the FBI has these kooks in their sights.

    Neo Nazism isn't a problem in the US.
    In Europe these people are all over the continent.
    From Stockholm on south they openly spit their hatred at football games; they openly demonstrate in the streets.

    So while the FBI and you are looking for the areeeb with the turban, John Smith from Kentucky sneaks in among you to do whatever
    Not near the scale as the EU, and let's face facts... it's the Islamofascists that are killing and maiming.


    ... and you dont find that a problem?
    A small one, like all manner of other kooks. Let it be remembered it is the leftists on the whole that have acted violently. Bader Meinhof, SDS, Wiliam Ayers... radical ecofreaks... the anarchists that thrash city after city when a G7 or G* summit takes place.

    That Obama befriended and acted in concert with a Domestic Terrorist didn't seem to bother the Obama supporters.
    This does?

    What about real threats like the one Saddam posed?
    Your kind didn't find this a problem.
    You didn't think a madman with hatred for America posed a serious threat?
    You folks were against stopping him even though he lost a war, had and used WMD, and was ardent in his hate for America... had 16 UN resolutions, of which 687 and 1441 were broken with impunity.
    No, this wasn't a problem.
    He couldn't have reconstituted his WMD program and then worked in concert with terrorists
    Ugh... no problem here...

    Or does the Neo Nazi movement have to start using road side bombs instead of other forms of violence before you take notice?
    Again... like Ayers?

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    Re: Report: 'Dirty bomb' parts found in slain man's home

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    ...I'm at a loss for words.
    That happens when people assume things about someone they are most exposed to and share words in a oopsie daisy manner.
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    Re: Report: 'Dirty bomb' parts found in slain man's home

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    I am sure the FBI has these kooks in their sights.

    Neo Nazism isn't a problem in the US.
    So you are saying that White Supremacists groups are not a problem in the US? That the movement is "small" and insignificant? Oh let me guess.. those white supremacists are not neo nazies.... yea right.

    In Europe these people are all over the continent.
    Yep. But are there not white supremacists in Alaska down to Florida?

    From Stockholm on south they openly spit their hatred at football games; they openly demonstrate in the streets.
    So you are saying that the White Supremacist movement does not demonstrate in the US? Funny I seem to recall a neo nazi demonstration going violent in Ohio a few years back. And dont even try to say that Neo Nazies have nothing to do with White Supremacist movement......

    Not near the scale as the EU, and let's face facts... it's the Islamofascists that are killing and maiming.
    So are Christians and jews and other criminal organisations. Lets do face the facts. Europe has been plauged by terror for the last 40 years, the US for the last 8. Europe has been fighting all kinds of terror for decades and still do. We have had radical right, radical left, anarchists, catholic, protestant and Islamic and nationalist terror. ETA aint a bunch of Islamofascists. Nor are the Corsican "freedom fighters", or the mafia in Italy that use carbombs and assassinations against elected officials. But at least we do not ignore the radical (both organised and unorganised) of our society.

    If the police found material for a dirty bomb in a Mafia local, then you bet that there would be some serious consequences.

    And yes unlike the US, Europe does have a very wide political spectrum and political views, which includes an anarchist movement and they tend to live up to their names during certain times of the year.. usually looting a US owned burger joint, calling for the down fall of the US imperialist ways, while holding a Coca Cola in one hand and a Big Mac in the other... yes they are morons! but they have the right to protest and suffer the consequences of their actions afterwards.

    A small one, like all manner of other kooks. Let it be remembered it is the leftists on the whole that have acted violently. Bader Meinhof, SDS, Wiliam Ayers... radical ecofreaks... the anarchists that thrash city after city when a G7 or G* summit takes place.
    And lets not forget that it was right wing inspired politics that lead to nationalistic fascist dictatorships in Spain, Italy and Germany. And lets not forget the US inspired military coups across the planet, that put in place hardcore right wing fascist dictators that murdered millions of their own population. And lets not forget that it is today a right wing government in Italy that is bringing back many of the old "El Duche" ideals. Yes the left has had violent aspects of it, no doubt about that, but dont deny that the right has not had also. And the fact is that the Neo Nazi movement is a RIGHT wing movement across the world. And lets not forget the biggest right wing political movement that has cost hundreds of millions of lives.. the Christian Church.

    That Obama befriended and acted in concert with a Domestic Terrorist didn't seem to bother the Obama supporters.
    Hey it bothered me, but this Ayers guy was a radical long ago, during a very different time. If we labled people on past actions, then we should have labled Israel as a terrorist nation from the day it was founded, since many of its leaders were wanted terrorists by the UK. We should still be calling the PLO a terrorist organisation and anyone talking to them (including Israel and the US) as terrorist sympathisers. But we dont, especially if the man in question was never convicted of any crime.

    On top of that, Obama's connection to Ayers was proven to be very very very very small.

    If we should use the right wing mantra on this subject, then Rumsfeldt should be shipped off to Gitmo as a terrorist, because he not only shock the hand of Saddam but held several meetings with Iraqi "terrorists".

    What the right attempted to do with Ayers was to use the guilt by association, and not only that, but association by being in the general area of someone. Does that mean that everyone in New York are terrorists now because there was a trial against a known terrorist in the city?

    But back to the topic at hand.. The radical right wing white supremacist movement in the US is dangerous and has been dangerous for decades and this discovery just proves yet again that it is true. One would have thought that the Oklahoma city bombing would have woken up the American public.. but guess not.
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    Re: Report: 'Dirty bomb' parts found in slain man's home

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post

    Neo Nazism isn't a problem in the US.
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    Not only is there a large collection of white supremacist groups in the US, but every one of them votes Republican.

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