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PETA dresses in KKK garb outside Westminster Dog Show

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By Gene Farris, USA TODAY
People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals knows how to grab attention. And show off its laundry.
The animal rights group, which every year stages a protest at the Westminster Kennel Club Dog Show, had two of its members dress in Ku Klux Klan garb outside Madison Square Garden on Monday.
Their goal, according to a post on the PETA website, was to draw a parallel between the KKK and the American Kennel Club. "Obviously it's an uncomfortable comparison," PETA spokesman Michael McGraw told the Associated Press.
But the AKC is trying to create a "master race" when it comes to pure-bred dogs, he added. "It's a very apt comparison."
The group passed out brochures implying the Klan and AKC have the goal of "pure bloodlines" in common.

"I can't speak for everyone, but the vast majority of the people exhibiting and handling and showing at Westminster are more interested in the health of dogs than anything else," Westminster spokesman David Frei told the AP.
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I've been to dog shows, and the ethical breeders that I have met are interested in breeding healthy animals asided for the business aspect.
 
So how does pureblood dog breeding equate to unethical treatment of animals?

PETA is like the ACLU. Good intent, lousy execution.
 
I question the good intent.
 
Where is the outrage from the black comminuty?
From the NAACP?
Sharpton? Jackson?
Obama?
 
Absolutely nothing surprises me about them anymore after the absurdity of the Sea Kitten campaign.
 
American said:
I question the good intent.
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Can't say I disagree, at least as far as PETA goes.

The ethical treatment of animals is a rightful cause IMO and there should be organizations that responsibly monitor this area, unfortunately PETA's track record has been that of media whoring (like this event) and shock tactics which makes them a disreputable organization IMO.
 
Captain Obvious said:
So how does pureblood dog breeding equate to unethical treatment of animals?
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Without looking anything up, I'd guess:

1) Tail and ear snipping
2) Dogs that are subjected to excess grooming, and "hair cuts" that are more for estetics rather than comfort.
3) Dogs that are overbred. In order to find the perfect dog, one might have to breed hundreds, which of course leads to the problem of overpopulation.

Ohhhh... edited to add that some breeds have been "honed" through the years to exaggerate certain features. This has caused major medical problems with certain breeds.

BTW, I'm no PETA apologist. I think they are way too extreme, to say the least. But I do think the show dog world is not best model of perfect pet ownership.
 
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I don't think the public is always the best example of pet ownership.
 
Middleground said:
Without looking anything up, I'd guess:

1) Tail and ear snipping
2) Dogs that are subjected to excess grooming, and "hair cuts" that are more for estetics rather than comfort.
3) Dogs that are overbred. In order to find the perfect dog, one might have to breed hundreds, which of course leads to the problem of overpopulation.

Ohhhh... edited to add that some breeds have been "honed" through the years to exaggerate certain features. This has caused major medical problems with certain breeds.

BTW, I'm no PETA apologist. I think they are way too extreme, to say the least. But I do think the show dog world is not best model of perfect pet ownership.
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Excess grooming?

:lol::lol::lol:

Yeah, I don't know if tail and ear snipping are unethical - lots of owners do that, but I have to admit that I'm not sure how the procedure is done. Neutering might fall into this category (If I had to chose between the two for me personally, I'd take ear snipping in a heartbeat), but that's generally promoted.

I pulled some info on this event from PETA's website:

The PETA Files: KKKrazy Protest Outside Westminster

http://blog.peta.org/archives/kkk_akc_leaflets.pdf

The web page doesn't offer much in explanation for the event, but the leaflets suggest one of your points - breeding causes dalmatians to be deaf and pugs have a hard time breathing. I dunno, seems like a stretch - I'd like to hear the breeders side of this story before making any conclusions.

They do add that breeding purebreds causes a random mutt somewhere to not get adopted which is a far, far stretch for marching with KKK garb IMO.

Still looks like media whoring to me so far.
 
Doesn't the AKC also give out awards for mixed breeds?

PETA FAIL.
 
If instead of dressing up in garbs that promote racism and remind people back to a time where there was a congress bill (I kid you not) that was an anti-lynching agent (as if lynching didn't fall under "murder") they should make an actual statement by making some logical assertion.

However, the only problem with dog breeding in general (I mean besides cases such as should we continue to breed bit-pulls, rottweilers, etc.) is that we've pretty much ruined "dogs".
As soon as humans die off, much of the dog population will to. Small dogs may not even be able to get out of their human's house, and will not be able to travel much; not to mention a tasty snack.

Large dogs will be too aggressive and end up killing one another off.

Medium dogs will be fine, but hey that's where the dog population started.

PETA needs to learn how to successfully promote an argument instead of pulling of childish **** like that.
 
American said:
They do? :confused:
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I'm sorry, they did a survey about allowing them.

I have seen dog shows on TV where they do have mixed breed categories. I don't remember who sanctioned them though.
 
Arch Enemy said:
If instead of dressing up in garbs that promote racism and remind people back to a time where there was a congress bill (I kid you not) that was an anti-lynching agent (as if lynching didn't fall under "murder") they should make an actual statement by making some logical assertion.

However, the only problem with dog breeding in general (I mean besides cases such as should we continue to breed bit-pulls, rottweilers, etc.) is that we've pretty much ruined "dogs".
As soon as humans die off, much of the dog population will to. Small dogs may not even be able to get out of their human's house, and will not be able to travel much; not to mention a tasty snack.

Large dogs will be too aggressive and end up killing one another off.

Medium dogs will be fine, but hey that's where the dog population started.

PETA needs to learn how to successfully promote an argument instead of pulling of childish **** like that.
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Where do you get the idea that large dogs are more agressive than medium ones?
 
independent_thinker2002 said:
Where do you get the idea that large dogs are more agressive than medium ones?
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Large dogs wont die off because they are too agressive, they will die off because they are too large.

Wolves are the size they are for a reason.
 
AE just made it up.
 
Arch Enemy said:
If instead of dressing up in garbs that promote racism and remind people back to a time where there was a congress bill (I kid you not) that was an anti-lynching agent (as if lynching didn't fall under "murder") they should make an actual statement by making some logical assertion.

However, the only problem with dog breeding in general (I mean besides cases such as should we continue to breed bit-pulls, rottweilers, etc.) is that we've pretty much ruined "dogs".
As soon as humans die off, much of the dog population will to. Small dogs may not even be able to get out of their human's house, and will not be able to travel much; not to mention a tasty snack.

Large dogs will be too aggressive and end up killing one another off.

Medium dogs will be fine, but hey that's where the dog population started.

PETA needs to learn how to successfully promote an argument instead of pulling of childish **** like that.
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Do you honestly think I would give a crap about dogs if myself along with my fellow species were to "die off"?
 
Goobieman said:
Large dogs wont die off because they are too agressive, they will die off because they are too large.

Wolves are the size they are for a reason.
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Wolves can be quite large. I never said that large dogs would die off. They'll survive because they naturally form packs and use teamwork to hunt.
 
independent_thinker2002 said:
Wolves can be quite large. I never said that large dogs would die off. They'll survive because they naturally form packs and use teamwork to hunt.
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I know. I was addressing the post you were responding to.
 
Middleground said:
Without looking anything up, I'd guess:

1) Tail and ear snipping
2) Dogs that are subjected to excess grooming, and "hair cuts" that are more for estetics rather than comfort.
3) Dogs that are overbred. In order to find the perfect dog, one might have to breed hundreds, which of course leads to the problem of overpopulation.

Ohhhh... edited to add that some breeds have been "honed" through the years to exaggerate certain features. This has caused major medical problems with certain breeds.

BTW, I'm no PETA apologist. I think they are way too extreme, to say the least. But I do think the show dog world is not best model of perfect pet ownership.
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Wrong on all accounts.

Tails are clipped when the pups are only a few days old. It's not any different than circumcisions in human babies. Ears are cut under general anesthesia and is no different that spaying or neutering as far as pain goes.

Excess grooming?? Are you kidding?? Dogs love to be groomed once they become accustomed to it. How often do you comb your hair? How often do you get your hair trimmed?? Are you being cruel to yourself??

People that show dogs are the most responsible breeders out there. Most breed a very few selective litters. If the puppies are not show quality, they are typically sold cheaply as pets with the requirement that they be spayed/neutered.
 
Gill said:
Wrong on all accounts.

Tails are clipped when the pups are only a few days old. It's not any different than circumcisions in human babies. Ears are cut under general anesthesia and is no different that spaying or neutering as far as pain goes.

Excess grooming?? Are you kidding?? Dogs love to be groomed once they become accustomed to it. How often do you comb your hair? How often do you get your hair trimmed?? Are you being cruel to yourself??

People that show dogs are the most responsible breeders out there. Most breed a very few selective litters. If the puppies are not show quality, they are typically sold cheaply as pets with the requirement that they be spayed/neutered.
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I agree fully, except that cheaply is a relative term. ;)
 
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