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    Re: PETA dresses in KKK garb outside Westminster Dog Show

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    Hey, I am not defending PETA. And as to the "evolutionary issues", that is exactly what they are. But people made them evolve that way, and people continue to perpetuate the defect by breeding dogs with the same problem together. It's ultimately our fault, not nature's or God's.
    This suggestion has been tossed around for a while now on this thread, does anyone have any links to sources that would confirm this theory or shed some light on the subject rather than volley hearsay? I'm not sure if this suggestion holds weight, but I don't know.

    And yes the problem with full pounds is also irresponsible people's fault, but I fail to see why letting a mutt breed is irresponsible, but letting a dalmatian breed isn't, especially when the mutt is probably healthier.
    Again, proof?

    This is the problem that I have with this argument. PETA would like us to believe that breeders are creating warehouses full of mutant, suffering animals when the likelihood is that, in a rare case there is a bad breeding - probably no more than the average bad breeding of any random dog.

    Production of good data extinguishes cognitive bias, and I haven't seen any solid data on this issue so far.
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    Re: PETA dresses in KKK garb outside Westminster Dog Show

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Obvious View Post
    This suggestion has been tossed around for a while now on this thread, does anyone have any links to sources that would confirm this theory or shed some light on the subject rather than volley hearsay? I'm not sure if this suggestion holds weight, but I don't know.



    Again, proof?

    This is the problem that I have with this argument. PETA would like us to believe that breeders are creating warehouses full of mutant, suffering animals when the likelihood is that, in a rare case there is a bad breeding - probably no more than the average bad breeding of any random dog.

    Production of good data extinguishes cognitive bias, and I haven't seen any solid data on this issue so far.
    I'm too busy at the moment to do any researching, but if you do I'd love to see what you get back. I might get more info later when I'm not working on course work.
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    Re: PETA dresses in KKK garb outside Westminster Dog Show

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Obvious View Post
    This suggestion has been tossed around for a while now on this thread, does anyone have any links to sources that would confirm this theory or shed some light on the subject rather than volley hearsay? I'm not sure if this suggestion holds weight, but I don't know.



    Again, proof?

    This is the problem that I have with this argument. PETA would like us to believe that breeders are creating warehouses full of mutant, suffering animals when the likelihood is that, in a rare case there is a bad breeding - probably no more than the average bad breeding of any random dog.

    Production of good data extinguishes cognitive bias, and I haven't seen any solid data on this issue so far.
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    Re: PETA dresses in KKK garb outside Westminster Dog Show

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    That's a definition.

    Groovy - what's the rate of occurrence, specifically with dog breeders?

    There is still way too much unknown to make any logical judgment on this issue.
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    Re: PETA dresses in KKK garb outside Westminster Dog Show

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Obvious View Post
    That's a definition.

    Groovy - what's the rate of occurrence, specifically with dog breeders?

    There is still way too much unknown to make any logical judgment on this issue.
    I'm not sure. You have good breeders and bad ones. I do know that "hybrid vigor" is a common term in the animal medicine world.

    It's a term to use in your search for the studies.
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    Re: PETA dresses in KKK garb outside Westminster Dog Show

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Obvious View Post
    First - if a pureblood pug has problems because it's face is flattened, I'd say that's an evolutionary issue - same for the others.
    Did you skip over the fact that the point of evolution is for a species to weed out problems? There wasn't such a thing as a pug 6,000 years ago. Dog breeds are the result of human tampering with animals. Saying that a pug having trouble breathing is the result of evolutionary issues is like saying that a car having a low crash rating is the result of the steel being used and not crappy design.
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    Re: PETA dresses in KKK garb outside Westminster Dog Show

    I think PETA dressing up in KKK garb is completely appropriate, if not ironic.
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    Re: PETA dresses in KKK garb outside Westminster Dog Show

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I think PETA dressing up in KKK garb is completely appropriate, if not ironic.
    Maybe so ... but to do so in New York seems like suicide to me.

    Why don't the dress in Nazi uniforms and go parade through Tel Aviv? It might actually be safer!!!


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    Re: PETA dresses in KKK garb outside Westminster Dog Show

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    Maybe so ... but to do so in New York seems like suicide to me.

    Why don't the dress in Nazi uniforms and go parade through Tel Aviv? It might actually be safer!!!

    I could support that.

    I, as lord and master of the universe, do hereby decree, that all members of PETA must dress in Nazi uniforms and "goose-step" through Tel Aviv. All survivors should be jailed immediately.
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    Re: PETA dresses in KKK garb outside Westminster Dog Show

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    That's horrible. I've always been brought up to almost never question people's intent. Just about everyone wants the same thing. They want a world that is better and functions more smoothly. To assume people have ill will is counterproductive and insulting. Question their policies and actions, question their philosophies sure, but don't question their motives. Neither party is trying to hurt people, neither are groups like this.

    You have good intentions sir, but you are in fact wrong. PETA does harm people by making us less safe because they donate to two of the most dangerous domestic terrorist groups in the USA. Those two groups are ALF (Animal Liberation Front) and ELF (Earth Liberation Front). Their former leader Ingrid Newkerk was a supporter of these groups, and PETA's tax records are public information because they are a tax exempt group, you can look up how they donated to a young man who fire bombed Michigan animal research facilities. Saying PETA is not dangerous, is like saying the Anti Abortion movement was never dangerous, it is naive at best.

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