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    Re: PETA dresses in KKK garb outside Westminster Dog Show

    Gill, you didn't address the issue of inbreeding and how it's affected certain breeds. I have no doubt that there are many decent and good breeders out there, but no, I don't think the number is even close to 99%. I have never bred, but I have friends who are breeders that are dismayed by a lot of what goes on.

    As far as docking goes, I'm on the fence about that. Some say it's cruel, others don't. It's not cut-and-dried.
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    Re: PETA dresses in KKK garb outside Westminster Dog Show

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I question the good intent.

    I question their sanity!

    Who in their right mind would dress up like the KKK and parade around New York?

    It's great way to become a crime statistic!

    Sheesh!


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    Re: PETA dresses in KKK garb outside Westminster Dog Show

    well there's lots organizations that already do that.
    And why does your tone suggest that you do not care about children?

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    Re: PETA dresses in KKK garb outside Westminster Dog Show

    In some cultures they eat dogs. So I don't want to hear any bull**** about our "abuse" of dogs in our culture, because we snip a tail or an ear for our own athestic pleasure. Their ****ing dogs, just like any other animal, and we have dominion over them, whether you believe in evolution or creationism.

    But other than that, I don't think I've ever met a hardcore dog breeder that had it all together mentally. They seriously treat these animals like people. I would say that their level of insanity is matched by those moms that parade around their 6 month olds at beauty pageants.
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    Re: PETA dresses in KKK garb outside Westminster Dog Show

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I think peta would garner more support if they focused more on the over hunting and habitat destruction of some of the world's endangered animals. Nobody really gives a **** if you kill 1,000 chickens. But if you're talking about the last 1,000 white rhinos? Big difference. Their tactics and targets must change.
    Watch it there Hatuey. Next thing ya know they`ll be takeing all the BBs out of my bass luers. PETA didn`t go to college, you`ll have to explain to them that a white Rino and a white elephant sale are two different things.

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    Re: PETA dresses in KKK garb outside Westminster Dog Show

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    I question their sanity!

    Who in their right mind would dress up like the KKK and parade around New York?

    It's great way to become a crime statistic!

    Sheesh!



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    Re: PETA dresses in KKK garb outside Westminster Dog Show

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Obvious View Post
    So how does pureblood dog breeding equate to unethical treatment of animals?

    PETA is like the ACLU. Good intent, lousy execution.
    First off, PETA takes things to ridiculous extremes. I completely condemn the whole KKK stunt.

    As to why pureblood dog breeding is unethical... I'm mostly going off of conversations my girlfriend and I have had, but here it goes. My girlfriend is an experienced Vet Technician, so I give her words some weight.

    Purebreds suffer from a variety of health problems. Almost every breed is prone to at least one specific health problem. Pugs get respiratory problem from having those smashed faces. Spaniels get bad ear problems from those huge ears of theirs. If I remember correctly, rottweilers suffer from bad hips, and other breeds are prone to certain kinds of cancers. By intentionally breeding a purebred dog, you're almost guaranteeing a dog will have some bad health problem.

    The other main problem is that there are so many shelter dogs out there. If someone breeds and sells a purebred dog, that's one more mutt in a shelter that'll likely be put to sleep. As a side note, she hates "designer breeds" like labradoodles and cockapoos with a passion. Nowdays, you can breed any two dogs, and get people to pay out the nose for a "designer dog" that they'd pass over in a shelter. It's sad.
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    Re: PETA dresses in KKK garb outside Westminster Dog Show

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I question the good intent.
    That's horrible. I've always been brought up to almost never question people's intent. Just about everyone wants the same thing. They want a world that is better and functions more smoothly. To assume people have ill will is counterproductive and insulting. Question their policies and actions, question their philosophies sure, but don't question their motives. Neither party is trying to hurt people, neither are groups like this.
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    Re: PETA dresses in KKK garb outside Westminster Dog Show

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    First off, PETA takes things to ridiculous extremes. I completely condemn the whole KKK stunt.

    As to why pureblood dog breeding is unethical... I'm mostly going off of conversations my girlfriend and I have had, but here it goes. My girlfriend is an experienced Vet Technician, so I give her words some weight.

    Purebreds suffer from a variety of health problems. Almost every breed is prone to at least one specific health problem. Pugs get respiratory problem from having those smashed faces. Spaniels get bad ear problems from those huge ears of theirs. If I remember correctly, rottweilers suffer from bad hips, and other breeds are prone to certain kinds of cancers. By intentionally breeding a purebred dog, you're almost guaranteeing a dog will have some bad health problem.

    The other main problem is that there are so many shelter dogs out there. If someone breeds and sells a purebred dog, that's one more mutt in a shelter that'll likely be put to sleep. As a side note, she hates "designer breeds" like labradoodles and cockapoos with a passion. Nowdays, you can breed any two dogs, and get people to pay out the nose for a "designer dog" that they'd pass over in a shelter. It's sad.
    First - if a pureblood pug has problems because it's face is flattened, I'd say that's an evolutionary issue - same for the others.

    Second, if our pounds are full of dogs that can't find homes, I'd suggest that the problem lies with irresponsible owners who don't neuter their dogs and generally let them breed unabated.

    If PETA has a problem with these issues, they should go to the source - irresponsible owners and God, not breeders.

    Unfortunately, news cameras aren't readily available at trailer parks and the Pearly Gates - which goes back to my point, PETA is simply attention whoring.
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    Re: PETA dresses in KKK garb outside Westminster Dog Show

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Obvious View Post
    First - if a pureblood pug has problems because it's face is flattened, I'd say that's an evolutionary issue - same for the others.

    Second, if our pounds are full of dogs that can't find homes, I'd suggest that the problem lies with irresponsible owners who don't neuter their dogs and generally let them breed unabated.

    If PETA has a problem with these issues, they should go to the source - irresponsible owners and God, not breeders.

    Unfortunately, news cameras aren't readily available at trailer parks and the Pearly Gates - which goes back to my point, PETA is simply attention whoring.
    Hey, I am not defending PETA. And as to the "evolutionary issues", that is exactly what they are. But people made them evolve that way, and people continue to perpetuate the defect by breeding dogs with the same problem together. It's ultimately our fault, not nature's or God's.

    And yes the problem with full pounds is also irresponsible people's fault, but I fail to see why letting a mutt breed is irresponsible, but letting a dalmatian breed isn't, especially when the mutt is probably healthier.
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