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    Re: Netanyahu declares victory in Israeli election

    Inconclusive election puts Israel, peace in limbo

    By KARIN LAUB, Associated Press Writer Karin Laub, Associated Press Writer – 38 mins ago

    JERUSALEM – Inconclusive election results sent Israel into political limbo Wednesday with both Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni and hard-line leader Benjamin Netanyahu claiming victory and leaving the kingmaker role to a rising political hawk with an anti-Arab platform.

    Livni's Kadima Party won 28 seats, just one more than Netanyahu's Likud, in Tuesday's election for the 120-member parliament, according to nearly complete results. Both held victory rallies, but without a clear majority neither can govern alone. Hard-line parties won a majority of the votes, meaning that Netanyahu has more natural allies and a better chance of forming a coalition.

    The results set the stage for what could be weeks of coalition negotiations. The first meetings began Wednesday, with Netanyahu meeting the head of the ultra-Orthodox Shas faction and Livni meeting Avigdor Lieberman, whose ultranationalist party received 15 seats and emerged as the third-largest force in parliament.

    Two of the more likely options would see a hard-line government led by Netanyahu, leaving Livni in the opposition, or some form of accommodation between the two in the form of a centrist coalition in which they would share power.

    Whatever government is forged, it is unlikely to move quickly toward peace talks with the Palestinians and instead could find itself on a collision course with President Barack Obama, who has said he's making a Mideast peace deal a priority.

    Paralysis could dampen prospects for Egyptian-led attempts to broker a truce between Israel and Gaza's Hamas rulers after Israel's devastating offensive in Gaza last month. Hamas might be reluctant to sign a deal at the risk of having it overturned by the incoming coalition.

    It's up to Israeli President Shimon Peres to decide whether Livni or Netanyahu should have the first shot at forming a government. Peres will meet next week with party leaders to hear their recommendations and he expects to assign the task around Feb. 20, presidential spokeswoman Ayelet Frisch said.

    However, the final word may be up to Lieberman, a former Netanyahu protege and perhaps Israel's most divisive politician.

    Lieberman says he wants to redraw Israel's borders in order to push out heavily Arab areas and require those who remain to sign a loyalty oath or lose the right to vote or run for office.

    Some 20 percent of Israel's 7 million citizens are Arabs, and about a dozen serve in parliament.

    Lieberman kept his options open. "We want a right-wing government," Lieberman told party activists, but added that "we do not rule out anyone."

    Meeting Lieberman in an attempt to woo him, Livni said Israelis have "chosen who they want to be prime minister."

    "This is an opportunity for unity which can push forward the issues which are important to you as well," Livni said, according to a statement issued by her office.

    Nearly everyone seemed to agree on one thing after Israel's fifth election in a decade — that the nation's fractious election system isn't working. Livni, Lieberman, and Defense Minister Ehud Barak of the Labor Party said in post-election speeches that the system, in which votes are splintered among a proliferation of parties, must be changed to allow more stability.
    Inconclusive election puts Israel, peace in limbo
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    OBL 11/24/02

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    Re: Netanyahu declares victory in Israeli election

    Yep.

    Palestine, and Arabs in general, are absolutely screwed; especially now that Lieberman has a role to play.

    This is still bad.
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    Re: Netanyahu declares victory in Israeli election

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    You're absolutely right. However, there's going to be an almost shared power between the two.
    Maybe, I don't know.
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    Re: Netanyahu declares victory in Israeli election

    Some seem to believe that the choice was: Netanyahu vs No Peace.

    I believe the choice was actually between Netanyahu vs a false hope for an equitable and lasting solution.

    There was never any chance for an equitable lasting solution. At least with Netanyahu there might be a more peaceful stalemate...at least there will be peace after Palestinian missile attacks invite IDF retaliation again.

    OBL 11/24/02

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    Re: Netanyahu declares victory in Israeli election

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    You are correct that "in the moment" emotions have taken a toll on the sanity of Israels electorates.
    Yes... because 'sanity' is defined as sitting back and giving those that want to you kill you every opportunity to try.

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    Re: Netanyahu declares victory in Israeli election

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Yes... because 'sanity' is defined as sitting back and giving those that want to you kill you every opportunity to try.

    I think you really have no idea what you are talking about.

    We are not talking about American politicians here.. we have to take our ideals of what a "left winger" and what a "right winger" are and shift it towards the right.

    The moderate, but left leaning, Livni is no sissy; she will not stand idle while people try to blow things up.

    Quote Originally Posted by http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article4040016.ece
    Livni joined Mossad after leaving the army with the rank of lieutenant and completing a year at law school. From her base in Paris she travelled throughout Europe in pursuit of Arab terrorists.
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    “Tzipi was not an office girl,” said an acquaintance. “She was a clever woman with an IQ of 150. She blended in well in European capitals, working with male agents, most of them ex-commandos, taking out Arab terrorists.
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    Livni, who unlike her parents supports a Palestinian state, would be no soft touch as prime minister. “While Tzipi is willing to give up the West Bank to the Palestinians, she is a hawk when it comes to Syria and Iran,” said a leading political commentator. “She is against withdrawal from the Golan [Heights], and once prime minister she will want to bomb Iran’s nuclear facilities.”

    Livni is showing support to the "Our Home" campaign
    Quote Originally Posted by http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1063348.html
    Livni told Lieberman on Wednesday that the people had made their choice for the next prime minister, and it was her that they had chosen.

    She said that now was the time for unity, and for the Yisrael Beiteinu leader to advance his agenda. The pair agreed to hold further talks.

    I think you need to get a better grasp of the situation.
    I was against Netanyahu and Lieberman because of their strong anti-arab policies.
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    Re: Netanyahu declares victory in Israeli election

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    I think you really have no idea what you are talking about.
    You keep thinking that.

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    Re: Netanyahu declares victory in Israeli election

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    You keep thinking that.
    Bravo!
    Very good response. Your knowledge of the subject matter is really showing.
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