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    Re: Military recruitment surges as jobs disappear

    Quote Originally Posted by bhkad View Post
    Sounds like cowardly, effete b.s. to me.
    Sounds like a non-existent argument to me.

    You are in love with military values it seems. These if they become too strong in a society, as you seem to want, are a death-knell to Conservative values and institutions.
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    Re: Military recruitment surges as jobs disappear

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    If/When is the key part. They may have to defend their country so they are heros. Well I'm sure as hell willing to defend it as well. I respect an armed man who knows how to use his weapon just as much.

    What you mean is they are perhaps responsible for the everyday continuance of their nation. Well so are many people that should be respected as much.
    That they serve when they could be doing otherwise and that they measure up to the standards required says something about them.

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    Re: Military recruitment surges as jobs disappear

    Quote Originally Posted by bhkad View Post
    That they serve when they could be doing otherwise and that they measure up to the standards required says something about them.
    It certainly does as it says about nurses, doctors, policemen and many others who keep Britain going in its normal peacetime situation. None of them are heroes though to me unless they are actually fighting to defend Britain in a real defensive war like WWII.
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    Re: Military recruitment surges as jobs disappear

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post


    Personally I don't look up to those who serve in the military unless they're fighting for a proper war of national defence like WWII. They're no better than anyone else and I have an ancient Tory suspicion of standing armies.
    The soldiers don't pick their wars. I respect any person willing to risk their life for America. Bad choices by our leaders do not diminish my respect for the troops

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    Re: Military recruitment surges as jobs disappear

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    Sounds like a non-existent argument to me.

    You are in love with military values it seems. These if they become too strong in a society, as you seem to want, are a death-knell to Conservative values and institutions.

    You may be a reactionary or authoritarian but you are not much of a Conservative like most neocons.
    Nevermind...
    Last edited by bhkad; 02-10-09 at 09:36 PM.

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    Re: Military recruitment surges as jobs disappear

    Quote Originally Posted by Kernel Sanders View Post
    The soldiers don't pick their wars. I respect any person willing to risk their life for America. Bad choices by our leaders do not diminish my respect for the troops
    Soldiers certainly pick their wars. Recruitment surged in Britain when we entered WWI and WWII. It is these people I respect greatly, otherwise in peacetime the military is just another entity that aims to keep everyday life going and derserves no more recognition than any other entity.

    Many people would risk their lives for Britain as much as those who signed up for the military in peacetime with little chance of actually having to risk their lives.

    Bad choices do not lessen my respect either. However I don't believe that all those who sign up in the peacetime military are heroes or that putting up the military as some sort of beacon for our society is a good idea.
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    Re: Military recruitment surges as jobs disappear

    Quote Originally Posted by bhkad View Post
    Nevermind...
    Some might call your constant attempts to run away from serious arguments effete and cowardly bs.....
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    Re: Military recruitment surges as jobs disappear

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    Some might call your constant attempts to run away from serious arguments effete and cowardly bs.....
    Nevermind...

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    Re: Military recruitment surges as jobs disappear

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    Soldiers certainly pick their wars. Recruitment surged in Britain when we entered WWI and WWII. It is these people I respect greatly, otherwise in peacetime the military is just another entity that aims to keep everyday life going and derserves no more recognition than any other entity.
    That's only true when people join up for a specific war. The soldiers I know joined right out of high school because they want to serve, and I'd think that sort of situation reflects the vast majority of any volunteer army. I don't see why committing to serve without knowing exactly what that will entail would be less respectable. I respect people for their willingness to defend the nation even when the circumstance aren't forcing them to do so.

    Many people would risk their lives for Britain as much as those who signed up for the military in peacetime with little chance of actually having to risk their lives.
    I don't know what Britain is like, but America doesn't have clean divisions between wartime and peacetime. When America isn't at war with anybody we usually have troops deployed in various conflicts and other dangerous situations. I don't think there's been a time since the start of WWI when joining the military carries very little chance of actually risking one's life.

    Bad choices do not lessen my respect either. However I don't believe that all those who sign up in the peacetime military are heroes or that putting up the military as some sort of beacon for our society is a good idea.
    Hero is a bit strong of a word, but I do believe that committing to defend one's country is something to be respected whether it is peacetime or not. I also believe that that commitment is something that all parts of our society can and should respect.

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