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    16 illegals sue Arizona rancher Claim violation of rights as they crossed his land

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    I believe the point these Illegal Immigrants are missing is that Trespassing is an illegal act.
    It is to be hoped that the court will not only throw out this case but will also deem it vexatious and fine the Lawyers who brought the case.

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    Re: 16 illegals sue Arizona rancher Claim violation of rights as they crossed his lan

    Don't these illegals understand the concept of private property? It isn't as if Mexico doesn't have that concept as well or anything.

    1. They illegally crossed the border in the first place.
    2. The property owner has the right to regulate access to his land.

    Frivilous lawsuit indicative of the lawyers' belief that people don't really have private property rights.
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    Re: 16 illegals sue Arizona rancher Claim violation of rights as they crossed his lan

    Quote Originally Posted by jujuman13 View Post
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    I believe the point these Illegal Immigrants are missing is that Trespassing is an illegal act.
    It is to be hoped that the court will not only throw out this case but will also deem it vexatious and fine the Lawyers who brought the case.
    I agree. They have no business suing and the rat lawyer should be fined.This is no different than a burglar suing a home owner because him injured himself or because the homeowner shot him.
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    Re: 16 illegals sue Arizona rancher Claim violation of rights as they crossed his lan

    Quote Originally Posted by jujuman13 View Post
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    I believe the point these Illegal Immigrants are missing is that Trespassing is an illegal act.
    It is to be hoped that the court will not only throw out this case but will also deem it vexatious and fine the Lawyers who brought the case.
    JUJUMAN,did I see a statement in the Washington Times story that mentioned a very socialist judge deciding,"this has to be heard by a jury" ? I think I also read that these are immigrants even though they entered illegaly,and immigrants have rights, even when trespassing. Welcome to an out of control justice system. I would vote for a lynching of a judge if these swimmers,(I`m fairly sure the river is wide and deep at that point on the border) win their multi multi million dollar lawsuit. Mexicans seem like real nice people, but they don`t always live by the laws we are governed by. I`m haveing a lot of missgivings about this one. We already know how the ultra-liberals feel about this one, How about the rest of you ?
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    Re: 16 illegals sue Arizona rancher Claim violation of rights as they crossed his lan

    Don't these illegals understand the concept of private property? It isn't as if Mexico doesn't have that concept as well or anything.

    1. They illegally crossed the border in the first place.
    2. The property owner has the right to regulate access to his land.
    The court case would have gone through and most likely have had been won by them if it was Britain. One thing i want to say and one thing only: Political Correctness. A load of bollocks.
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    Re: 16 illegals sue Arizona rancher Claim violation of rights as they crossed his lan

    Quote Originally Posted by Rodney View Post
    JUJUMAN,did I see a statement in the Washington Times story that mentioned a very socialist judge deciding,"this has to be heard by a jury" ? I think I also read that these are immigrants even though they entered illegaly,and immigrants have rights, even when trespassing. Welcome to an out of control justice system. I would vote for a lynching of a judge if these swimmers,(I`m fairly sure the river is wide and deep at that point on the border) win their multi multi million dollar lawsuit. Mexicans seem like real nice people, but they don`t always live by the laws we are governed by. I`m haveing a lot of missgivings about this one. We already know how the ultra-liberals feel about this one, How about the rest of you ?
    While I agree that the immigrants were in the wrong, I think it's asinine to say that they do not have rights. They are human beings, much like you and I.
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    Re: 16 illegals sue Arizona rancher Claim violation of rights as they crossed his lan

    While I agree that the immigrants were in the wrong, I think it's asinine to say that they do not have rights. They are human beings, much like you and I.
    We're talking about land rights here, not human rights. If they entered a country on an illegal basis they are not subjected to be protected by the laws of the land, but are subjected to be persecuted under them. So kick them out of the country. They have no right to be there therefore they are not subjected to the national rights of the people.
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    Re: 16 illegals sue Arizona rancher Claim violation of rights as they crossed his lan

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    We're talking about land rights here, not human rights. If they entered a country on an illegal basis they are not subjected to be protected by the laws of the land, but are subjected to be persecuted under them. So kick them out of the country. They have no right to be there therefore they are not subjected to the national rights of the people.
    Though you may not be, I was talking about human rights.
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    Re: 16 illegals sue Arizona rancher Claim violation of rights as they crossed his lan

    Under AZ law it is legal to hold a person who has committed a felony with the threat of violence... or otherwise.

    Them crossing the border illegally onto his land was a felony.
    George Washington didn't use his freedom of speech to win the war with Britain... He shot them.

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    Re: 16 illegals sue Arizona rancher Claim violation of rights as they crossed his lan

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    While I agree that the immigrants were in the wrong, I think it's asinine to say that they do not have rights. They are human beings, much like you and I.
    Most excellant point, but they do need to repect the rights of the humans they encounter along the path of their illegal immigration. I live in Little Mexico...south east Nashville, I`ve had my quality of life shot to hell as a result of 200,000 of these people with human rights. We can`t afford the cost of the entire worlds human rights. I want everyone in the world to have a happy and prosperous life. America alone can`t make this happen. The land owner trying to protect himself and his family can`t make it happen either. The stupid judge on this case is setting fire to the efforts of others attempting to provide human rights to all. Stretching the judges neck, in this case, would do more for human rights than handing 32 million dollars to a bunch of illegals who repeatedly deny this land owner his rights.

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