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    Re: US unemployment rate reaches 7.6%

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    Upward mobility in Europe is difficult because of the red tape involved. It's costly and slow. Try opening a company here, and then deal with the employees trying to tell you how to run your business.[/QUOTE]

    This is one of the biggest problems in Europe, and something we need to address at an EU level.. If you see me debating on European forums I always nag on about this to other peoples discontent or them just ignoring it.. Its one if the most vital reforms we need in Europe, to make it easy for anyone to start a business, with a minimum of procedures and a minimum cost, and then rather use the effort on starting the actual business instead of registering it.
    I like the American policy on business start ups, I often point to it as an example of business policy to adapt in Europe, but I also like the Danish and Irish models which is even easier and faster(internet based, and based around your national number), and no costs in Denmark.. But then again Denmark have huge taxes for businesses. France have a model which is almost as good as the US, believe it or not, being one of the best models for starting businesses in Europe. Elsewhere its relative expensive and you need to go via a notary in most cases, it can take months, with tons of paperwork and running between a dusin offices at least, back and forward like a ping pong ball.
    It annoys me utterly, and it annoys me even more that most Europeans do not take this serious when I tell them we need to reform in this area.

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    Re: US unemployment rate reaches 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    This is one of the biggest problems in Europe, and something we need to address at an EU level.. If you see me debating on European forums I always nag on about this to other peoples discontent or them just ignoring it.. Its one if the most vital reforms we need in Europe, to make it easy for anyone to start a business, with a minimum of procedures and a minimum cost, and then rather use the effort on starting the actual business instead of registering it.
    I like the American policy on business start ups, I often point to it as an example of business policy to adapt in Europe, but I also like the Danish and Irish models which is even easier and faster(internet based, and based around your national number), and no costs in Denmark.. But then again Denmark have huge taxes for businesses. France have a model which is almost as good as the US, believe it or not, being one of the best models for starting businesses in Europe. Elsewhere its relative expensive and you need to go via a notary in most cases, it can take months, with tons of paperwork and running between a dusin offices at least, back and forward like a ping pong ball.
    It annoys me utterly, and it annoys me even more that most Europeans do not take this serious when I tell them we need to reform in this area.

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    Re: US unemployment rate reaches 7.6%

    7.6% is not as bad as it could be. In 1933 during the great depression unemploment reached 25% in America. I think thats about were France is now isn't it?
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    Re: US unemployment rate reaches 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    7.6% is not as bad as it could be. In 1933 during the great depression unemploment reached 25% in America. I think thats about were France is now isn't it?
    Nope it is about the same as the US. Try again.
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    Re: US unemployment rate reaches 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Nope it is about the same as the US. Try again.
    Is that including muslim riot days?

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    Re: US unemployment rate reaches 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Is that including muslim riot days?
    Does the US number include American's that are too fat to work?

    Do you want to continue to exchange insults?
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    Re: US unemployment rate reaches 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Does the US number include American's that are too fat to work?

    Do you want to continue to exchange insults?
    WHOA! I was merely referencing the little riots you guys had over labor and the grievances of younger muslims.

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    Re: US unemployment rate reaches 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    WHOA! I was merely referencing the little riots you guys had over labor and the grievances of younger muslims.

    I didn't realize you were full on menstrual today or I wouldn't have bothered, ms. midol.
    There was no Muslim riots, never have been. There was protests by young people, of which a big part were maybe of north Africa descent (which don't mean they are Muslim btw) and these protests have turned a tad more violent than American's are use too, but fully with in normal protesting in Europe.

    I guess from now on if there are few black people in any protest in the US then it is a black riot.. right? And if there is a hispanic in the mix then it is race riots if one person gets arrested or a rock is thrown? And if there are a bunch of christians in front of an abortion clinic shouting rude words and maybe a egg or 2, then it is a religious riot?
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    Re: US unemployment rate reaches 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    There was no Muslim riots, never have been. There was protests by young people, of which a big part were maybe of north Africa descent (which don't mean they are Muslim btw) and these protests have turned a tad more violent than American's are use too, but fully with in normal protesting in Europe.

    I guess from now on if there are few black people in any protest in the US then it is a black riot.. right? And if there is a hispanic in the mix then it is race riots if one person gets arrested or a rock is thrown? And if there are a bunch of christians in front of an abortion clinic shouting rude words and maybe a egg or 2, then it is a religious riot?
    Every reliable news source indicated that the 2005 civil unrest had a core issue of integration of muslims into french society and the work force.

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    Re: US unemployment rate reaches 7.6%

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    A second part need be present or people with wealth will open their companies elsewhere. There is ample opportunity outside of Europe.

    Part 2: The business owner needs be able to keep his profit should he make one.
    Its not really a problem to start a business if you want to, but its not available for everyone, and it should be.. Most likely if you want to start a business in an average country in Europe, you need 3000, you need to be prepared to run between 5-10 offices and fill out a variety of paperwork which needs to be in the exact right order for the next one to accept your paperwork. You will also have to go to a notarius in most cases, and as if this is not enough you have to fill out a dusin forms and be prepared to work on starting up your business for around a month. This is just not acceptable for normal people in a job, actually quite impossible.. I understand that businesses in 1960 could require a lot of money to be started up, but in this day and age a business start up capita of average 15.000 to register the business makes no sense, when you can actually succeed with making a business with nothing but small chump change if you do it right.. So, for people with a lot of time and money to spare, 3000(just for registration) and running between offices for a month every other day, and having a minimum start capita of 15.000 is quite possible, but this procedure definetely excludes the regular guy/woman who just want to register a business and try their best at making it successfully. Thats the shame.

    Part 2. Yes.. Most countries in Europe actually have low corporate tax rates, comparable to the US for example, while a handful have really awful tax burden on corporations, with approximately 50% and such. There is also another group with low direct tax burden but a lot of hidden costs, such as social contributions per dollar earned/per employer which makes it more difficult for small companies to succeed. Generally corporate taxation is not the biggest problem in Europe, but rather the business start up.
    But then again, Europeans are free to start up a business in any country they want, but it would not make sense for all to go to Ireland to do that to have the 2nd easiest procedures in Europe, and the 2nd or 3rd lowest tax burden on their company.

    In my opinion we need to coordinate business registration on a European level and set a framework for corporate taxations.
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