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Cigarette Tax Clouds Boosts Among States

Family Guy said:
Smokers deserve to "get screwed" because they're a severe burden on society and they're "Typhoid Marys" who spread disease all over the country.
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Obesity costs more health care dollars than smoking.
 
Kali said:
Maybe we should just start being a Police Country and everything that goes into your body is controlled by our gov. Do you really think that is a good idea? Do you trust the FDA to be your body police? Cause I sure as hell do not! :shock:
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Can you name one positive / healthy contribution cigarettes provide to the consumer? One will do...
 
Family Guy said:
Can you name one positive / healthy contribution cigarettes provide to the consumer? One will do...
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It keeps me from going postal on smoking nazis:mrgreen:

j/k
 
winston53660 said:
Obesity costs more health care dollars than smoking.
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This seems completely plausible, but obesity is not caused by a discrete thing that can be precisely targeted, while cigarette smoking is.
 
RightinNYC said:
Sure.



By "this involved," you mean "taxing a product that they already tax and have taxed for decades"?

Yea, I'm really not tripping.



HI! I'm the FDA. I see we haven't met before.

You do know that they do this all the time, right?



I wish for a world where people like me aren't stuck paying for the healthcare of people who end up as drains on the system because of their cigarette smoking. If that means that people who choose to smoke pay an extra buck a pack, I'm okay with that.
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So you trust the FDA with your body? Do you even know the crap you consume that should not pass as real food? :roll:
 
Family Guy said:
Smokers deserve to "get screwed" because they're a severe burden on society and they're "Typhoid Marys" who spread disease all over the country.

Nothing good is associated with smoking cigarettes, nothing. It's poison. It's a killer. How many products in America are sold for consumption with warnings that continued use of the product will kill you?
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But the same can be said for people who eat junk food and also feed it to their kids! Same could be said about drinkers. :roll:
 
Family Guy said:
Can you name one positive / healthy contribution cigarettes provide to the consumer? One will do...
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Yes. It relaxes this consumer and calms my nerves. Now I know that there are people that claim that cigs. do not calm the nerves but make em worse but I am proof that it helps calm me down. So you could say that they aid me in not having a breakdown. Having said all this don't you dare try to attack my mental health or anything else buster! :(
 
Kali said:
So you trust the FDA with your body? Do you even know the crap you consume that should not pass as real food? :roll:
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Do you not see the difference between trusting the FDA to set a minimum baseline and trusting the FDA to decide what I will eat?


Yes. It relaxes this consumer and calms my nerves. Now I know that there are people that claim that cigs. do not calm the nerves but make em worse but I am proof that it helps calm me down. So you could say that they aid me in not having a breakdown. Having said all this don't you dare try to attack my mental health or anything else buster!
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They also help you lose weight. Nobody is saying that there aren't some incidental quasi-positive side effects, we're simply pointing out that that's like saying that smoking meth will help you lose weight - it's a pretty inefficient way to reach the end goal. I bet you could get the same calming effect in a much healthier fashion.

Also, FWIW, you do know that it's the addictive ingredients in the cigarettes that is making you crave the cigarette to calm down in the first place, right? It's like saying that you need to drink because it helps with the rehab shakes.
 
They also help you lose weight. Nobody is saying that there aren't some incidental quasi-positive side effects
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I'll say that! Them things will kill ya boy.. and you are right nobody cares what you do, as long as you aren't a burden on society; heck, as long as you are a burden on society, then you can eat fecal matter for all I care.
 
Nicotine is an appetite suppressant, and there are nicotine-based drugs available for weight loss in correlation with studies that have been done. So, continuing to smoke a cigarette still is no excuse. Another reason why smokers lose weight is because many use their workbreaks to light up instead of eating.

I've also read a couple of studies which suggest that nicotine may partially block insulin, but this hasn't been confirmed. If it's true, then your body will always have an elevated glucose level, which means your body will never tell you that you're hungry even if you haven't eaten in a while.

At any rate, the weight loss that smoking causes is not healthy. There are better ways to do it.
 
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