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    Re: Cigarette Tax Clouds Boosts Among States

    Quote Originally Posted by Joby View Post
    I went to the convenient store today, and asked for a pack of camel lights.

    "That'll be $7.25"

    "HA! I quit."
    LOL, that's about what it is in Chicago. I don't smoke BTW
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    Re: Cigarette Tax Clouds Boosts Among States

    Quote Originally Posted by Joby View Post
    I went to the convenient store today, and asked for a pack of camel lights.

    "That'll be $7.25"

    "HA! I quit."

    As for the other conversation, aren't something like 45% of doctors in the US foreign educated? It makes no sense, we surrender the high paying jobs to foreigners but when they come to mow lawns we get all uppity.
    American Spirits here are like $5

    Hollar at some of the lowest prices in Amerahcah.
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    Re: Cigarette Tax Clouds Boosts Among States

    So the state governments are going to tax cigarettes like crazy and make it seem like their best interest is the health of smokers all the while taking more of a profit from cigarettes companies. Gee, I wonder if cigarette smokers will ever suspect what's really going on?

    Like I've said in previous posts I think that our government should follow Canada's example and regulate the cigarette companies to take the extremely harmful and toxic chemicals out of cigarettes and then put big cards on the front of all packs of cigarettes showing of the true disgusting effects of smoking. Sure some people will continue to smoke, but it is far more embarrassing and demeaning when you are getting packs of cigarettes with rotten teeth and toasted lungs on them.

    If people are going to smoke they are going to smoke. Trying to **** them over from their wallet because they make a personal decision to smoke is ridiculous.

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    Re: Cigarette Tax Clouds Boosts Among States

    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvinoise View Post
    So the state governments are going to tax cigarettes like crazy and make it seem like their best interest is the health of smokers all the while taking more of a profit from cigarettes companies. Gee, I wonder if cigarette smokers will ever suspect what's really going on?

    Like I've said in previous posts I think that our government should follow Canada's example and regulate the cigarette companies to take the extremely harmful and toxic chemicals out of cigarettes and then put big cards on the front of all packs of cigarettes showing of the true disgusting effects of smoking. Sure some people will continue to smoke, but it is far more embarrassing and demeaning when you are getting packs of cigarettes with rotten teeth and toasted lungs on them.

    If people are going to smoke they are going to smoke. Trying to **** them over from their wallet because they make a personal decision to smoke is ridiculous.
    Then we should regulate McDonalds and have imprints of overly obese individuals on their hamburgers.
    Then we should have Tacobell attach signs to their burritos to tell one the Grade rating of their beef; Let me give you a hint, it's slightly above dog-food.
    Then we should attach on every license form, and Taxi application what a mangled body looks like once it's been in a head on collision.
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    Re: Cigarette Tax Clouds Boosts Among States

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    Then we should regulate McDonalds and have imprints of overly obese individuals on their hamburgers.
    Then we should have Tacobell attach signs to their burritos to tell one the Grade rating of their beef; Let me give you a hint, it's slightly above dog-food.
    Then we should attach on every license form, and Taxi application what a mangled body looks like once it's been in a head on collision.
    I think cigarettes are quite a bit more harmful and not to mention addictive than those things that you mentioned.
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    Re: Cigarette Tax Clouds Boosts Among States

    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvinoise View Post
    I think cigarettes are quite a bit more harmful than those things that you mentioned.
    the National Center for Health Statistics disagrees

    Quote Originally Posted by http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/FASTATS/deaths.htm
    Heart disease: 652,091
    Cancer: 559,312
    Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 143,579
    Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 130,933
    Accidents (unintentional injuries): 117,809

    I think you are labeling smokers unfairly.
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    Re: Cigarette Tax Clouds Boosts Among States

    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvinoise View Post
    So the state governments are going to tax cigarettes like crazy and make it seem like their best interest is the health of smokers all the while taking more of a profit from cigarettes companies.
    I'm not sure what you're saying here, are you claiming that states are taking profits from the companies?

    If people are going to smoke they are going to smoke. Trying to **** them over from their wallet because they make a personal decision to smoke is ridiculous.
    Studies indicate the opposite, as a 10% increase in cigarette prices correlates with a 4-10% decrease in consumption.
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    Re: Cigarette Tax Clouds Boosts Among States

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    the National Center for Health Statistics disagrees

    I think you are labeling smokers unfairly.
    Ah, so those things that you listed are addictive like cigarettes are and cause second hand smoke that affects others as well? And no, I'm not giving cigarettes a bad rap. I don't need to. They've had one for years and rightfully so.

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    Re: Cigarette Tax Clouds Boosts Among States

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    I'm not sure what you're saying here, are you claiming that states are taking profits from the companies?
    I think that the high taxation of cigarettes is a roundabout way of doing that, yes. Then again, I'm highly cynical.

    Studies indicate the opposite, as a 10% increase in cigarette prices correlates with a 4-10% decrease in consumption.
    Yeah, if you increase the taxes so much that people can't afford them that is bound to happen. I just don't agree with that method. People should be allowed to do what they want. Why not just regulate the poisonous **** that tobacco companies put in cigarettes. It's not as if those toxic chemicals are a necessary thing for cigarettes to exist. If a company was putting poisonous chemicals in food the FDA would be all over their ass. Why not hold cigarette companies to the same standards?

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    Re: Cigarette Tax Clouds Boosts Among States

    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvinoise View Post
    Ah, so those things that you listed are addictive like cigarettes are and cause second hand smoke that affects others as well? And no, I'm not giving cigarettes a bad rap. I don't need to. They've had one for years and rightfully so.
    Addictions are genetic and environmental.

    I support the smoking bans in public areas.
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