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    Re: Cigarette Tax Clouds Boosts Among States

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    I think it is total B.S.! Smokers get screwed once again
    Stop screwing the rest of us with your hundreds of billions of dollars of health care costs.
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    Re: Cigarette Tax Clouds Boosts Among States

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    I've never understood why people continue to propose .such massive amounts of funding for smoking cessation programs. Instead of spending $75m, why not just jack up the taxes on them and make $75m while having the same deterrent effect?
    cessation programs are pretty stupid.

    All the cessation drugs, and alternatives are nicotine based as well. It's like trying to cure a cocaine addict by giving him a 1/20th of his usual dosage.

    Addiction is an obsessive mentality. Has to be up to the individual.
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    Re: Cigarette Tax Clouds Boosts Among States

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Who will they collect from when there are not enough taxes from cigarettes to fund the program?
    They just do like the UK and dip into general tax funds while claiming that the cigarette tax and "donations" make up a majority of the costs.

    Just think, it will be paying for that octoplet birthing single divorced unempolyed mom's 13 kids.
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    Re: Cigarette Tax Clouds Boosts Among States

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Stop screwing the rest of us with your hundreds of billions of dollars of health care costs.
    Do you feel the same way about people who drink too much, eat too much and people that do not exercise?

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    Re: Cigarette Tax Clouds Boosts Among States

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    Do you feel the same way about people who drink too much, eat too much and people that do not exercise?
    OMG

    Call me out what don't you.
    Jesus Christ.
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    Re: Cigarette Tax Clouds Boosts Among States

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    Taxed Cigarettes are okay by me.
    Typical drivel.
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    Re: Cigarette Tax Clouds Boosts Among States

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Cigarette Tax Clouds Boosts Among States - WSJ.com

    How do you feel about funding SCHIP, since most likely the revenues from cigarette taxes will not cover the costs of the program?
    I would have no problem with the states taxing whatever they want; i mean i can easily move.

    SCHIP is porks belly. How about they subsidize medical school for the top 1% ACT/SAT with half the funds, and the other half build research facilities to be leased to the private sector for 49-99 years?
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: Cigarette Tax Clouds Boosts Among States

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    Do you feel the same way about people who drink too much, eat too much and people that do not exercise?
    Of course.

    It just so happens that your foible is particularly discrete and directly correlated to health problems, thus making it susceptible to punitive taxation.

    That being said, I've got no problem with increases in alcohol taxes, even thought it would cost me more money. I recognize that alcohol causes increased societal/economic costs in terms of healthcare, and am willing to pay my share of that.

    Food/exercise is a lot more difficult administratively, but I'm in favor of reducing benefits for people who suffer from ailments related to obesity if need be.
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    Re: Cigarette Tax Clouds Boosts Among States

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Typical drivel.
    What does this contribute to the thread?
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    Re: Cigarette Tax Clouds Boosts Among States

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    I would have no problem with the states taxing whatever they want; i mean i can easily move.

    SCHIP is porks belly. How about they subsidize medical school for the top 1% ACT/SAT with half the funds, and the other half build research facilities to be leased to the private sector for 49-99 years?
    Holding your hand out are you?
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