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    Re: Working moms look to Michelle Obama for change

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    Human nature is not this whole fictional concept of time, working for money, or planning.
    The body is not rational. It is based on instincts and the more you refuse the instincts the more, in most cases, it will push toward it.
    I certainly realize this.
    I know to that the other side of that in human instinct is that when someone else sees a person living off of their dime, they tend to get pissed.
    Should that person follow their instinct and take it back by force?

    So do you suggest we try to embrace all instincts whether or not they be inferior?

    If companies are forced to pay for maternity leave they will simply hire less women.
    Staffing companies are going to be popular in the near future i foresee.
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    Re: Working moms look to Michelle Obama for change

    While the US doesn't have mandatory paid maternity leave, we do have FMLA. Further, a majority of women are offered paid maternity leave by their employers.

    I'm inclined to say it should be more, but I think using the European model as an example is a pretty horrible idea.

    Sweden is one country which provides generous parental leave: all working parents are entitled to 16 months paid leave per child, the cost being shared between employer and State.

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    Norway also has similarly generous leave. In Estonia mothers are entitled to 18 months of paid leave, starting up to 70 days before due date. Fathers are entitled to paid leave starting from the third month after birth (paid leave is however available to only one parent at a time). The amount paid depends on wages earned during previous calendar year - most will receive 100% or full wage but there is an upper limit of three times national average.

    The maternal-leave only system in Bulgaria is even more generous, providing mothers with 45 days 100% paid sick leave prior the due date, 2 years paid leave, and 1 additional year of unpaid leave. The employer is obliged to restore the mother to the same position upon return to work. In addition, pregnant women and single mothers cannot be fired.
    That's just insane.
    People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.

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    Re: Working moms look to Michelle Obama for change

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    While the US doesn't have mandatory paid maternity leave, we do have FMLA. Further, a majority of women are offered paid maternity leave by their employers.

    I'm inclined to say it should be more, but I think using the European model as an example is a pretty horrible idea.



    That's just insane.
    That is what I'm afraid of.

    Something like that and the extension of the statute of limitations on pay discrimination that was signed into law, could make women less desirable employees.
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    Re: Working moms look to Michelle Obama for change

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Working moms look to Michelle Obama for change | U.S. | Reuters









    These people want companies to pay them for chosing to have a baby and want the government to pay for their childcare.

    Personal responsibility, out the window.


    Is this silly or what ?

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    Re: Working moms look to Michelle Obama for change

    Holy crap. It's welfare, only they're calling it something else. Wonderful.

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    Re: Working moms look to Michelle Obama for change

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Holy crap. It's welfare, only they're calling it something else. Wonderful.
    Something else ?...afirmative action ?

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    Re: Working moms look to Michelle Obama for change

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    While the US doesn't have mandatory paid maternity leave, we do have FMLA. Further, a majority of women are offered paid maternity leave by their employers.

    I'm inclined to say it should be more, but I think using the European model as an example is a pretty horrible idea.



    That's just insane.
    You should see what they do in Great Britain and France.
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    Re: Working moms look to Michelle Obama for change

    Quote Originally Posted by Rodney View Post
    Something else ?...afirmative action ?
    No, maternity leave. If you pay someone for 18 months for doing nothing, I consider that welfare.

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    Re: Working moms look to Michelle Obama for change

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Well, I mean it is a choice after all. Why not plan ahead and pay your own way. No, that is way to much to ask.

    Make your employer and the government do the planning for you. That makes much more sense.
    Arch Enemy is probably unemployed or has never paid any taxes. He seems to wallow in govt benefits to everyone regardless of the insanity of it. People like this have no idea what America is about and why people want to come here.
    "He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
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    Re: Working moms look to Michelle Obama for change

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    No, maternity leave. If you pay someone for 18 months for doing nothing, I consider that welfare.
    That is welfare...,and then some.

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