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    Re: China hammers dissent despite looming UN review

    Quote Originally Posted by Kernel Sanders View Post
    Just FYI DP is available in China. You can use this website to test any domain you'd like.

    BUT, if anyone posts from there, they need to tow the party line or else they risk detention like a myriad of other cyber dissidents in the country.
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    Re: China hammers dissent despite looming UN review

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Amazing that they don't have their paid spammers on here like they do on other sites on the web.
    Can you tell me a little more on this and their purpose?

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    Re: China hammers dissent despite looming UN review

    Quote Originally Posted by Kernel Sanders View Post
    Just FYI DP is available in China. You can use this website to test any domain you'd like.



    If you are really interested I can show you how that does not mean jack... The site can resolve, the site can be pinged, the site can be trace routed, however the content can still be blocked.


    This is a test from one of there servers in china is my guess, the company could be exempt as many foreign companies are.

    in otherwords this proves little actually.
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    Re: China hammers dissent despite looming UN review

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    If you are really interested I can show you how that does not mean jack... The site can resolve, the site can be pinged, the site can be trace routed, however the content can still be blocked.


    This is a test from one of there servers in china is my guess, the company could be exempt as many foreign companies are.

    in otherwords this proves little actually.
    The site appears to actually request the page and not just ping the server. The size of the response is very similar, and almost identical to the result I got when testing with wget (72363 bytes), which gives me the front page. The Chinese firewall blocks by IP, so if the front page is available the entire site should be. I don't know anything about exemptions, so it could very well be that this company gets special treatment. It would be pretty stupid for the company to do that, though, because they could just forward the request to any random Chinese person's home PC and get perfectly accurate test results.

    I just don't think we're on the Chinese government's radar. The internet is a big place and the .cn TLD is the second biggest (after .com of course). If we start getting Chinese members I wouldn't be surprised if we got blocked, but with little or no traffic going to China I doubt the censors have ever wandered to our corner of the web.

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    Re: China hammers dissent despite looming UN review

    Quote Originally Posted by Kernel Sanders View Post
    The site appears to actually request the page and not just ping the server. The size of the response is very similar, and almost identical to the result I got when testing with wget (72363 bytes), which gives me the front page. The Chinese firewall blocks by IP, so if the front page is available the entire site should be. I don't know anything about exemptions, so it could very well be that this company gets special treatment. It would be pretty stupid for the company to do that, though, because they could just forward the request to any random Chinese person's home PC and get perfectly accurate test results.

    I just don't think we're on the Chinese government's radar. The internet is a big place and the .cn TLD is the second biggest (after .com of course). If we start getting Chinese members I wouldn't be surprised if we got blocked, but with little or no traffic going to China I doubt the censors have ever wandered to our corner of the web.


    Who knows..... And like others said, it is random as well.


    You bring up good points though, But like I said, Unless I am sitting at a starbucks in beijing typing in this website, who knows.
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    Re: China hammers dissent despite looming UN review

    Quote Originally Posted by creativedreams View Post
    Can you tell me a little more on this and their purpose?
    I have seen several sites that I do not frequent anymore where pro-China spammers continually spread their pro-China propoganda. Some were banned for being obvious propoganda agents. Unfortunately, I don't have any details because I was not an admin on any of those sites.
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    Re: China hammers dissent despite looming UN review

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    What can we learn from China? How to arrest peaceful people and put them in jail because of what they believe in? Can we learn how to invade neighboring countries and incorporating them into ours at the point of a gun? Can we learn from them how to threaten other neighboring countries to join them, or else? Can we learn from them how to support some of the most despicable states in the world including DPRK, Burma, Sudan, and Zimbabwe - among many others.
    Ahh yes the usual bull**** I hate China speech.
    As to answer all your questions, yes, as well as teaching China how to commit genocide, how to invade a foreign nation just for the hell of it, how to piss on our own laws without any consequences, how to segregate and deny rights to anyone who's a minority; and even how to train terrorists that turn around to bite us in our own ass.

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai
    If you are referring to CULTURE, no argument. But their internal politics and international relations is NOT something ANYONE should strive to emulate.
    They've attacked foreign nations just for the hell of it now? If you want to just focus on the bad go right ahead, but at least be equal and honest in your assessments.
    Every country has it's skeletons, but you're so filled with vial hatred of China that no matter what they do it can never be good.

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    Re: China hammers dissent despite looming UN review

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    BUT, if anyone posts from there, they need to tow the party line or else they risk detention like a myriad of other cyber dissidents in the country.
    That is utterly baseless bull****.
    They don't give two ****s about it, not even if you posted a huge banner on the streets protesting corruption no one is going to burst into your house.
    China today is by no longer the cultural revolution fear house it was 30+ years ago; but that doesn't matter because it suits your goals of playing on ignorance of people who have not been there before.
    You sir are a liar.

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    Re: China hammers dissent despite looming UN review

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    I have seen several sites that I do not frequent anymore where pro-China spammers continually spread their pro-China propoganda. Some were banned for being obvious propoganda agents. Unfortunately, I don't have any details because I was not an admin on any of those sites.
    Right, because of course, it's impossible for Chinese citizens to love their country, if they post anything that's pro-china it has to be because they are either spammers or have been brainwashed or are under survelience.
    You have nothing but vial hatred.

    Why don't you post some real news? Like something big going on in Taiwan huh? Yeah, that's all this thread is, nothing but an attempt to turn attention away from the real big news.
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    Re: China hammers dissent despite looming UN review

    Quote Originally Posted by Kernel Sanders View Post
    I just don't think we're on the Chinese government's radar. The internet is a big place and the .cn TLD is the second biggest (after .com of course). If we start getting Chinese members I wouldn't be surprised if we got blocked, but with little or no traffic going to China I doubt the censors have ever wandered to our corner of the web.
    DP and most personal public web forums really aren't on the radar of anyone.
    China's firewall couldn't give two ****s about what is posted on this site or others like it.
    That NYTIMES, CNN, Washington Post, CNN aren't even blocked in itself says just how little they care.
    As if people in China don't know about the firewall that blocks content? As if the people in China are so ignorant or need foreigners telling them of the injustices of their own nation? Go visit and see for yourself of just how maoist China is, go to any US university and see how maoist or how brainwashed the Chinese are. Just a bit Americacentric.
    People here seem to think that Chinese have no idea about the outside world, their all brainwashed. The reality couldn't be farther from the truth. I don't know about how it is towards Europe, but I can confidently say that your average Chinese knows far more about the US than your average American knows about China.

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