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Report: Holocaust denier will review evidence

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Report: Holocaust denier will review evidence - Yahoo! News

Richard Williamson is one of four bishops from the ultraconservative Society of St. Pius X whose excommunication was lifted by the Vatican last month. The decision sparked outrage because Williamson had said in a television interview he did not believe any Jews were gassed during the Holocaust.

On Wednesday, the Vatican demanded that Williamson recant his denial before he can be admitted as a bishop into the Roman Catholic Church. Williamson made clear he does not plan to comply immediately, the weekly Der Spiegel reported.

"Since I see that there are many honest and intelligent people who think differently, I must look again at the historical evidence," the British bishop was quoted as saying.

"It is about historical evidence, not about emotions,"
he added, according to the report. "And if I find this evidence, I will correct myself. But that will take time."

Der Spiegel said Williamson, who lives in Argentina, insisted on having questions faxed to him and sent his replies by e-mail. It said their authenticity was confirmed in a phone call by Williamson and a lawyer for the Society of St. Pius X.

Williamson has apologized to Pope Benedict XVI for having stirred controversy, but has not repudiated his comments, in which he also said only 200,000 to 300,000 Jews were killed during World War II and none was gassed.

I wonder what those who defended this bigot will say now. Williamson proves EXACTLY what has been said over and over again. The Catholic Church's less then admirable position during WWII would not allow it to let this guy back in without having him recant on his position. Brothers in Christ be damned he wasn't born a Bishop. Now let's watch the apologists scream about 'cultural imperialism'.
 
the real problem is rather then having a real war crimes trial, they did a show trial allowing the bigots to point to this monkey court and the lack of evidence that was brought forward in such a circus atmosphere.

I don't know the number that were killed. 300,000 is significantly lower then what has been reported but it is hardly trivial!
 
Some people who still following the old an obsolete method of supporting a story by manipulation of information and false statements must wake up to the new world of technology.

Some years ago the invention of a story about millions killed by assumed gas chambers was an easy task because a big amount of propaganda was enough to make credible.

Today the story is different, today we have better scientific techniques which allow us to determine how true are the stories of the past.

With these new techniques several stories have been vindicated, confirmed or discarded. For example, a medieval story wrote in a poem in England saying that the sea water reached once a high level zone of land was a legend until a scientific investigation proved it as true. We cannot just accept the holocaust implying the dead of millions killed by gas when there is no science supporting such thing.

At this very moment, the "deniers of the holocaust" enjoy the privilege of to have science on their side, and this is how it works in scientific terms: you don't have to prove a negative, but you must prove what you state if you are asked to do it scientifically.

As far as we know, the evidence that the gas chambers never existed has been given with great and deep investigation. No residuals enough to kill people have been found, and the rooms were never prepared to be used as gas chambers because windows and doors show great spaces with their frames which would cause leaks and kill everybody in the buildings, including the Nazis. The investigator is an expert in this matter and he was in charge or the building of gas chambers in US for the sentences to death on criminals.

Now is the turn of the supporters of the holocaust to use science to prove the contrary.

For this task, science demands the presentation of facts, not so the verbal argument denying the evidence proving that no gas cameras existed.

The presentation of "witness" or "testimonies" is invalid against the excellent scientific evidence given by Leuchter proving that the gas chambers existence is a fallacy.

And the Pope himself must have at hand such required scientific evidence before arguing against the bishop Richard Williamson.:coffeepap
 
I'm ready to see this evidence.

If there's something the Vatican knows how to do well, then it's hiding sh!t.
 
Report: Holocaust denier will review evidence - Yahoo! News





I wonder what those who defended this bigot will say now. Williamson proves EXACTLY what has been said over and over again. The Catholic Church's less then admirable position during WWII would not allow it to let this guy back in without having him recant on his position. Brothers in Christ be damned he wasn't born a Bishop. Now let's watch the apologists scream about 'cultural imperialism'.

The photos of bodies stacked like cord wood along rail lines make me wonder why anyone wishes to deminish, in any way, what the NAZI PARTY did. I`ve heard 6,000,000.... Now lets say those cudly little Nazi bastards only did 3 mill. Now add 3 more by the commie bastard Rusians over the prior half century. Now lets figure another 3 mill by ISLAM in the next very few years,if they get their way. Anyone had enough ? Do you need more ? Who needs more dead Jews ? Catholics ?...Do you need more dead jews as proof of genocide and or holocaust ? My goodness ,how stupid are we to even have this conversation ? It happened,many times and will continue for as long as the human race needs more proof. Did we kill any native Americans ? I need proof. I need proof that IRAN is going to nuke Israel and until they do it I have no proof, stated the Williams .
 
Rodney said:
The photos of bodies stacked like cord wood along rail lines

Photoshop
That is the only denial tactic I think the Neigh-sayers have.

Obama's Birth Certificate paper? Photoshopped
Holocaust Pictures of Life-less Body? Photoshopped
 
All Mr. Williamson has to do is read the trial transcripts of Irving vs. Lipstadt (2000). Testifying for the defense; historians, academics, archivists, and scientists showed conclusively that approx 5.8 million Jews perished in the Shoah. Judge Charles Gray agreed and declared David Irving to be a Holocaust-denier and historical fraud.
 
Photoshop
That is the only denial tactic I think the Neigh-sayers have.

Obama's Birth Certificate paper? Photoshopped
Holocaust Pictures of Life-less Body? Photoshopped

You say they believe those photos to be doctored ? Is this what Photoshopped means ? I saw some WWII footage of a Nazi criminal type saveing bullets by haveing some Jews stand one behind the other...BANG,...one bullet five heads. Photoshopped ? This all upsets me,the notion that a CATHOLIC PRIEST would hide his hatred of jews by hideing the truth behind such a lie.
 
My question is why the hell didn't he review the evidence BEFORE making such an asinine claim?
 
You say they believe those photos to be doctored ? Is this what Photoshopped means ? I saw some WWII footage of a Nazi criminal type saveing bullets by haveing some Jews stand one behind the other...BANG,...one bullet five heads. Photoshopped ? This all upsets me,the notion that a CATHOLIC PRIEST would hide his hatred of jews by hideing the truth behind such a lie.

I don't know. I am just pointing out the fact how asinine it is to deny the holocaust, especially when there's much more than just 1st person expereience of it.
 
The photos of bodies stacked like cord wood along rail lines make me wonder why anyone wishes to deminish, in any way, what the NAZI PARTY did. I`ve heard 6,000,000.... Now lets say those cudly little Nazi bastards only did 3 mill. Now add 3 more by the commie bastard Rusians over the prior half century. Now lets figure another 3 mill by ISLAM in the next very few years,if they get their way. Anyone had enough ? Do you need more ? Who needs more dead Jews ? Catholics ?...Do you need more dead jews as proof of genocide and or holocaust ? My goodness ,how stupid are we to even have this conversation ? It happened,many times and will continue for as long as the human race needs more proof. Did we kill any native Americans ? I need proof. I need proof that IRAN is going to nuke Israel and until they do it I have no proof, stated the Williams .

Nahhhhh

The photographs of a few hundred of dead bodies won't support the fallacy of millions of dead dudes in gas chambers. Get out of here!:lol:

You must prove that gas was used plus that the rooms were insulated enough to serve as gas chambers. This is about science and no about ugly pictures which mean nothing but dead bodies here or there.

Scientifically speaking, the holocaust has been declared as a hoax! :coffeepap
 
Nahhhhh

The photographs of a few hundred of dead bodies won't support the fallacy of millions of dead dudes in gas chambers. Get out of here!:lol:

You must prove that gas was used plus that the rooms were insulated enough to serve as gas chambers. This is about science and no about ugly pictures which mean nothing but dead bodies here or there.

Scientifically speaking, the holocaust has been declared as a hoax! :coffeepap

I'm sorry, are you a holocaust denier? Or are you just a denier that gas was used? And by "gas", what are you specifically talking about? Would you not consider carbon monoxide a "gas" in the context of "gas chambers" that were used to kill jews?
 
You are spot-on, Tashah.

The idea that the Nazis did not use gas chambers as one of their tools in carrying out the Holocaust is absurd. The evidence is irrefutable and overwhelming. The revisionist pseudoscience touted by some Holocaust deniers is neither credible nor accurate. That some persist to this day in denying the undeniable is both shocking and disheartening.

The transcripts for Irving v. Lipstadt offers evidence. The Gerstein Report offers additional evidence. Transcripts from the Nuremburg Trials provide additional evidence. For example, some excerpts from one of the medical transcripts follow:

Between September 1939 and April 1945 the defendants Karl Brandt Blome, Brack, and Hoven unlawfully, wilfully, and knowingly committed War Crimes, as defined by Article II of Control Council Law No. 10, in that they were principals in, accessories to, ordered, abetted, took a consenting part in, and were connected with plans and enterprises involving the execution of the so-called "euthanasia" program of the German Reich in the course of which the defendants herein murdered hundreds of thousands of human beings, including nationals of German-occupied countries. This program involved the systmatic and secret execution of the aged, insane, incurably ill, of deformed children, and other persons, by gas, lethal injections, and divers other means in nursing homes, hospitals, and asylums. Such persons were regarded as "useless eaters" and a burden to the German war machine. The relatives of these victims were informed that they died from [n]atural causes, such as heart failure. German doctors involved in the "euthanasia" program were also sent to the Eastern occupied countries to assist in the mass extermination of Jews.
 
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The presentation of "witness" or "testimonies" is invalid against the excellent scientific evidence given by Leuchter proving that the gas chambers existence is a fallacy.

Mr. Leuchter lacked the expertise and credibility to make any kind of scientific judgments concerning the Nazis' use of gas chambers, among other methods, during the Holocaust.
 
Scientifically speaking, the holocaust has been declared as a hoax!
I'm sorry, are you a holocaust denier?
Judging from the above and from his previous posts in this regard, one can only conclude that yes... there is a Holocaust-denier right on this very board.
 
Judging from the above and from his previous posts in this regard, one can only conclude that yes... there is a Holocaust-denier right on this very board.

Absolutely...and it sickens me.
 
I wonder what those who defended this bigot will say now. Williamson proves EXACTLY what has been said over and over again. The Catholic Church's less then admirable position during WWII would not allow it to let this guy back in without having him recant on his position. Brothers in Christ be damned he wasn't born a Bishop. Now let's watch the apologists scream about 'cultural imperialism'.

Still lying about the position of the Catholic Church during the Holocaust?
 
Judging from the above and from his previous posts in this regard, one can only conclude that yes... there is a Holocaust-denier right on this very board.

Absolutely...and it sickens me.

Really? Didn't realize he was still doing this. He tried it a while back and vacated the thread when his position was destroyed.

Come on conquer. Try it again, so I can destroy your position for the...oh, I've lost count how many times.
 
Really? Didn't realize he was still doing this. He tried it a while back and vacated the thread when his position was destroyed.

Come on conquer. Try it again, so I can destroy your position for the...oh, I've lost count how many times.

Ok, here I am.

Now, lets respond first to Tahash.

Judging from the above and from his previous posts in this regard, one can only conclude that yes... there is a Holocaust-denier right on this very board.

Are you trying to deviate the presentation of facts that the gas chambers never existed by declaring me a holocaust denier? Is that all the best you can do? Excuse me but you are falling in the arms of fanatiscism and stupid pride if you cannot understand first what is the primeval meaning of the word "holocaust".

holocaust: Definition from Answers.com

1. Great destruction resulting in the extensive loss of life, especially by fire.
2.
1. Holocaust The genocide of European Jews and others by the Nazis during World War II: “Israel emerged from the Holocaust and is defined in relation to that catastrophe” (Emanuel Litvinoff).
2. A massive slaughter: “an important document in the so-far sketchy annals of the Cambodian holocaust” (Rod Nordland).
3. A sacrificial offering that is consumed entirely by flames.

As far as it is known, the burning of DEAD bodies by Germans was made to avoid the spread of diseases and not so by sacrificing the bodies to any God.

Oh, and ignore the number 2 definition because such is a lie, read what the word genocide mean.

genocide - Dictionary definition and pronunciation - Yahoo! Education

The systematic and planned extermination of an entire national, racial, political, or ethnic group.

As far it is known, there is not a single evidence that such was the intentions of the Germans, otherwise the only thing they needed was to kill with their guns the Jews right there in the cities. Why did they had to preserve them in concentration camps? The whole thing makes no sense when you imply that the Germans wanted to "exterminate" the Jews from the world.

On the other hand, it is a more clear picture of what happened when you can see pictures of Jews in concentration camps at the beginning of the war, the Jews were having even weddings and sport tournaments inside them! Come on, where are your "extermination goals"?

At the end of the war, as Germany was loosing the war, the common sense event is that there was no more food to feed the people inside the concentration camps, then, people started to become sick and they were dying by starvation and or diseases. The only way to avoid contamination was to burn the bodies.

Look at here in US, the US government ALSO put lots of Japanese people in concentration camps, if the US government was to kill them, they should do it as soon the Japanese in detention put their feet inside those camps. Now, I will tell you this, if US was to loose the war and it happenee a great shortage of food, the ones who will suffer first are the Japanese in the US concentration camps because the government will apply to the motto "Americans first". The Germans just used the same motto.

It is not anyone's fault but the mischievous attitude from some people who took advantage of the winning of the war by the allies and invented lots of tales about what the Germans did in the war.

And again, reason won't be in your side with your silly attitude of calling me "holocaust denier" because you must learn what the word "holocaust" means in the first place before posting more stories based in ignorance of the language.

I'll hope you have the evidence proving the use of gas in those rooms which have been proven already never been used as gas chambers, not only by the lack of gas residual but also by the clear spaces between doors and windows with their frames which present big gaps causing leaks.

As long as you don't provide the scientific evidence that the gas chambers existed, your whole story tale is scientifically considered as a hoax.:coffeepap
 
Still lying about the position of the Catholic Church during the Holocaust?

The role of the Roman Catholic Church in the Shoah (Nazi Holocaust)

*Although informed of the massive Nazi attacks of synagogues and Jewish business in on Kristallnacht 1938-NOV, Pope Pius XII issued no public criticism.
*Although informed during 1940 to 1943 of Nazi atrocities in at least Austria, Lithuania, Poland, Spain, and the Ukraine, (including deportations to death camps) he made no public comments. 4
*Pope Pius XII "...never explicitly spoke out against Hitler." Actually, this is in error. He did condemn Hitler in a speech to the College of Cardinals, one month after the war ended. 2
*"He refused to join a resolution of the Allies condemning the Nazi crimes." 2
*"He never excommunicated any Nazi," 7 although he did excommunicate some German Catholics who supported cremation as an alternative to burial.
*"He never declared it a sin for Catholics to participate in the slaughter." 2
*In 1941 when asked about proposed anti-Jewish laws in Vichy France, Pius XII answered that the church condemned racism, but did not repudiate every rule against the Jews. 4

Go troll elsewhere apologist. You're if not as bad worse then those who deny the holocaust. Propping up your church's role for the sake of not being seen as condoning of atrocities.
 
As long as you don't provide the scientific evidence that the gas chambers existed, your whole story tale is scientifically considered as a hoax.
Once again you flout your lies and deceit.

From your keyboard to our eyes.
 
The role of the Roman Catholic Church in the Shoah (Nazi Holocaust)



Go troll elsewhere apologist. You're if not as bad worse then those who deny the holocaust. Propping up your church's role for the sake of not being seen as condoning of atrocities.

Why don't you read BOOKS on the subject. Anyone can post a website.

Your reading assignments:

The Myth of Hitler's Pople: How Pope Pius XI Rescued Jews from the Nazis by RABBI David G. Dalin

Pope Pius XII: Architect for Peace by Margherita Marchione. This one includes large numbers of primary source documents that shows what you say is a LIE.

Sorry some people have so much contempt for the Church that they can't accept the truth.
 
Why don't you read BOOKS on the subject. Anyone can post a website.

Your reading assignments:

The Myth of Hitler's Pople: How Pope Pius XI Rescued Jews from the Nazis by RABBI David G. Dalin

Pope Pius XII: Architect for Peace by Margherita Marchione. This one includes large numbers of primary source documents that shows what you say is a LIE.

Sorry some people have so much contempt for the Church that they can't accept the truth.

Those sound like books without an agenda.
 
Why don't you read BOOKS on the subject. Anyone can post a website.

Well here. I'll show you. I provide sources backing my opinion. You can try and ignore them or address them. But I have a gut feeling that like most revisionist you'll provide some diversion to avoid the topic.

Your reading assignments:

The Myth of Hitler's Pople: How Pope Pius XI Rescued Jews from the Nazis by RABBI David G. Dalin

Pope Pius XII: Architect for Peace by Margherita Marchione. This one includes large numbers of primary source documents that shows what you say is a LIE.

Sorry some people have so much contempt for the Church that they can't accept the truth.

So your argument is that you can't come up with an argument? Noted. Have fun being a revisionist. I will not help you by going on some mystery egg hunt. :2wave:
 
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