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Report: Holocaust denier will review evidence

Frankly, I don't have the time to dig up through all of the information on the Pope and the Holocaust now because I am a full time teacher and in training for East Asian games trials later this spring. However, this July, I would LOVe to have a one-on-one true debate with you on this (unless in the highly unlikely event I qualify for the East Asian Games and am preparing to head off to Macau at that time.) Are you game?


Like Poland?

Auschwitz concentration camp - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia









And before you ask :

Demographics of Poland - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



Or are you going to pretend like the Roman Catholic Church is not influential in a country where 90% of the population is Roman Catholic? Does your revisionism know no end?



The thousands? Get a ****ing clue. 6.6 million Jews were killed while the Roman Catholic Church remained quiet. End of story. Oskar Schindler saved 1,200 jews. Does that mean that Germans are no longer responsible for the deaths of 6.6 million Jews? In the same manner the Catholic church doing the bare minimum and remaining SILENT while a genocide was going on is not redeemed because they hid a few Jews under table cloths.



You've provided nothing but a wild goose hunt that I do not wish to engage on. Now either put up or shut up. All you've done so far is adhere to fallacies like argumentums ad authoritarium. Nothing more nothing less.



I provided sources for my claims. You provided a wild goose hunt. Want to try again? When one looks at the facts today one sees that :

1) If the Church felt true in it's conviction that it did all it could. Then it wouldn't have to apologize as it did.

2) If the church was as helpful as it was then there wouldn't be so many ISRAELI written arguments and news report displaying Jewish anger at the Church's willful ignorance of the Holocaust.

Now cry all you want. I'm done with your revisionism. Go cry to jfuh or something.
 
Hatuey. Read this.

That Pius followed a consistently pro-German course during the war is simply wrong. From the outset of the War, Pius was on shaky ground maintaining the semblance of Vatican neutrality as he clearly and consistently led the Church in a position that supported the defeat of Hitler. Nazi authorities over and over again described Pope Pius XII as the enemy of the Reich, and Hitler went so far is to plot his kidnapping.41 There is no evidence, of course, that the Holy See aided in an organized way the escape of Nazis.

And look at some of these links

The Holocaust and the Catholic Church
 
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Hatuey - what's with the sudden silence?

You want the Bishop to review the evidence on the Holocaust. Will YOU review the evidence on the Church's work to save as many Jews as possible?
 
Hatuey - what's with the sudden silence?

You want the Bishop to review the evidence on the Holocaust. Will YOU review the evidence on the Church's work to save as many Jews as possible?
I think he realised that the fact the church could have done better was a weak position for the complete bile and attempt to destroy the church completely he was attaching to the incident to fulfil his own agenda.
 
His Lordship knows he has made plenty of enemies by daring to questioning Holocaustianity on mainstream television. There has been no new "evidence" that would now make him turn against his pursuit for the truth.
 
His Lordship knows he has made plenty of enemies by daring to questioning Holocaustianity on mainstream television. There has been no new "evidence" that would now make him turn against his pursuit for the truth.

Volker? Is that you?
 
Hatuey. Read this.



And look at some of these links

The Holocaust and the Catholic Church

Lol so no actual reply? To anything you've claimed and now can't support? Good to know. Your usual wild goose hunts are ignored.

Ludahai : More Jews survived in Catholic countries.

Hatuey : 2 million Jews were killed in Poland, a country with a population of 90% Catholics.

Ludahai : Wild Goose Hunt.

And then the little **** claims victory posting a whole week after I'd posted. Good way to be dishonest Ludahai. But here. If you wanna go against me on this? Sure. Why not. I want to see you make a fool out of yourself by claiming that less Jews died in Catholic countries(like Poland :confused:) then in Catholic countries like.....Italy?
 
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Lol so no actual reply? To anything you've claimed and now can't support? Good to know. Your usual wild goose hunts are ignored.

Ludahai : More Jews survived in Catholic countries.

Hatuey : 2 million Jews were killed in Poland, a country with a population of 90% Catholics.

Ludahai : Wild Goose Hunt.

And then the little **** claims victory posting a whole week after I'd posted. Good way to be dishonest Ludahai. But here. If you wanna go against me on this? Sure. Why not. I want to see you make a fool out of yourself by claiming that less Jews died in Catholic countries(like Poland :confused:) then in Catholic countries like.....Italy?

Care to engage in a true debate in July? Did you even read ANY of the links I posted?
 
Interesting you cherry pick ONE country - Poland, the Catholic country CLOSEST to Germany and IGNORe that THREE MILLION CATHOLICS were also killed by the Nazi death machine IN POLAND!

You clearly ignore the fact that the Catholic Church did more than any other organization to speak out for Jews before and during the war. THey worked tirelessly to save Jews, grant them baptismal certificates. passports, and transit visas, and give them refuge in Catholic properties than anyone else.

Again, I don't have time to dig it all up now, but are you up for a true debate about this in July? Or are you a coward?
 
Interesting you cherry pick ONE country

Cherry pick one country? You mean the country destroying your assertion that Jews were more likely to survive in Catholic Majority countries? Do you even know what Cherry picking is?

- Poland, the Catholic country CLOSEST to Germany

:rofl - What does this have to do with your claim that Jews in Catholic Majority countries had a bigger chance of surviving then Jews elsewhere? You have provided absolutely no source for this claim and are now shooting the evidence contradicting your claim from the get go.

and IGNORe that THREE MILLION CATHOLICS were also killed by the Nazi death machine IN POLAND!

Meaning what exatcly? That your claim that Jews had a bigger chance of survival in Catholic countries?

You clearly ignore the fact that the Catholic Church did more than any other organization to speak out for Jews before and during the war.

Your biggest lie :

BBC News | Europe | Vatican apologises over holocaust

The Vatican has apologised to Jews on behalf of the entire Roman Catholic community, for failing to speak out against the Nazi holocaust during World War Two.

In his letter accompanying the apology, the Pope said the holocaust remained an indelible stain on the 20th century.

The Vatican's long-anticipated response to the killing of six million Jews was published in Rome on Monday.

But the document fails to explain why Pope Pius never took sides during World War Two by speaking out against the holocaust while it was actually taking place.

The Vatican has always maintained he did everything he could behind the scenes to stop the slaughter.

In the document, the Vatican asks all Christians to meditate upon the catastrophe.

Why do you want to keep spreading your revisionism?

THey worked tirelessly to save Jews, grant them baptismal certificates. passports, and transit visas, and give them refuge in Catholic properties than anyone else.

Again, I don't have time to dig it all up now, but are you up for a true debate about this in July? Or are you a coward?

You must be retarded. I already said Yes.
 
Care to engage in a true debate in July?

You're gonna get thumped on this one...you shouldn't have thrown down that gauntlet. Now he's gonna get a neat award and you're gonna get a tick in the loss column officially.
 
You're gonna get thumped on this one...you shouldn't have thrown down that gauntlet. Now he's gonna get a neat award and you're gonna get a tick in the loss column officially.

He doesn't realize that I do not care who claims what. I care about actions which ALWAYS speak louder then words. The Vatican apologizing for it's silence during WWII trumps ANY question about whether or not they spoke out against the Holocaust during WWII.
 
He doesn't realize that I do not care who claims what. I care about actions which ALWAYS speak louder then words. The Vatican apologizing for it's silence during WWII trumps ANY question about whether or not they spoke out against the Holocaust during WWII.

Yep, which is exactly why you are gonna beat him like a drum. He can't win the debate.
 
Felicity would make it interesting.
 
He doesn't realize that I do not care who claims what. I care about actions which ALWAYS speak louder then words. The Vatican apologizing for it's silence during WWII trumps ANY question about whether or not they spoke out against the Holocaust during WWII.

You haven't actually read the document that that article you linked to refers to, have you (nor have you Lerxst)....:rofl good luck with that "thumping.":rofl:rofl:rofl
 
Again, I don't have time to dig it all up now, but are you up for a true debate about this in July? Or are you a coward?

Why wait for July?:confused:
 
You haven't actually read the document that that article you linked to refers to, have you (nor have you Lerxst)....:rofl good luck with that "thumping.":rofl:rofl:rofl

Did the Pope apologize for the Catholic church not speaking out against the Holocaust during Word War 2? Yes or no?
 
Did the Pope apologize for the Catholic church not speaking out against the Holocaust during Word War 2? Yes or no?

Not exactly, though that's how the media who likes sensationalism might characterize it. Read the document.
(sorry ludahai, if this blows your secret weapon...)


WE REMEMBER: A REFLECTION ON THE SHOAH


Particularly...

At the end of this Millennium the Catholic Church desires to express her deep sorrow for the failures of her sons and daughters in every age. This is an act of repentance (teshuva), since, as members of the Church, we are linked to the sins as well as the merits of all her children.

Expressing regret and sorrow for the many Christians (of all affiliated flavors) not being entirely Christlike at a time when such radical selflessness was needed, is not exactly the specific apology that you and Hatuey (and the media) are claiming it is. Catholic repentance also is not necessarily repentance for one's own errors--one can offer penance for others in reparation for wrongs committed anywhere by anyone.
 
Why wait for July?:confused:

I don't have the time to devote to it now. I am a full time teacher and am in training for East Asian Games trials coming up in May (10k) and June (marathon). In July, I will have the time to give this debate the full attention it deserves.
 
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