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    Judge clears dead Texas man of rape conviction

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    And this is the State we trust with the largest number of execution in the US including the illegal denial of consultation with consul for Mexican citizens on death row in the State. Yeah, right.

    AUSTIN, Texas A man who died in prison while serving time for a rape he didn't commit was cleared Friday by a judge who called the state's first posthumous DNA exoneration "the saddest case" he'd ever seen.
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    Re: Judge clears dead Texas man of rape conviction

    One of the reasons i do not support Death penalty. How does Texas plan to make it up to him? Raise him from the dead?

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    Re: Judge clears dead Texas man of rape conviction

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    One of the reasons i do not support Death penalty. How does Texas plan to make it up to him? Raise him from the dead?
    This guy didn't get the death penalty, but the article doesn't make clear if his incarceration contributed to his death in prison or not.

    I am not against capital punishment, but there must be substantially more evidence than is apparently used in Texas and all proper forms most be followed (which was NOT the case in the situations with the Mexicans - and who knows who else). Texas is too quick to kill - and sadly, there are some on here who are also too quick to kill. Incontrovertable evidence, I have no problem with capital punishment, but if there is ANY doubt at all, it should not be applied.
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    Re: Judge clears dead Texas man of rape conviction

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Texas is too quick to kill - and sadly, there are some on here who are also too quick to kill. Incontrovertable evidence, I have no problem with capital punishment, but if there is ANY doubt at all, it should not be applied.
    You're right but this is depressing his incarceration probably contributed in some way to his death, it would take a long time for someone to get life in UK and they usually get a hearing again after a few years.

    Im against capital punishment, i think its barbaric

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    Re: Judge clears dead Texas man of rape conviction

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    You're right but this is depressing his incarceration probably contributed in some way to his death, it would take a long time for someone to get life in UK and they usually get a hearing again after a few years.

    Im against capital punishment, i think its barbaric
    Hopefully, the increased use of DNA evidence will make such mistakes a thing of the past. However, I believe there IS a place for capital punishment, but as I have indicated, I place a higher standard on evidence than apparently many US states (especially Texas does) as well as a higher standard than some of our more gung ho death penalty supporters on DP.
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    Re: Judge clears dead Texas man of rape conviction

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Hopefully, the increased use of DNA evidence will make such mistakes a thing of the past.
    Hopefully yes but mistakes may always be made.

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    Re: Judge clears dead Texas man of rape conviction

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    One of the reasons i do not support Death penalty. How does Texas plan to make it up to him? Raise him from the dead?
    You can`t make it up to anyone in this case, but the clowns who put together the fraudulent , or wrongful conviction need to be punished,...never to judge again, law license pulled, serious jail time if anything beyond error can be proven. I think Tennessee is number one (somewhere near the top), in wrongful convictions. In the event of circumstantial evidence or spurious witness ( felon trash giving testimony for favor,etc.) The death penalty should never be available. Caught red handed...,fry the felon if a 1st degree murder was his or her crime. The chick turned christian a few years back (multiple pick ax strikes to the head neck and torso...covered with blood) that kind need to go to never never land, never to kill again, nor eat another prison meal.

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    Re: Judge clears dead Texas man of rape conviction

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Hopefully yes but mistakes may always be made.
    There are so, so many cases where they refuse, or disallow, or refuse to examin evidence or even fail to collect it ,that its criminal on the part of the courts and cops . Judges and lawyers rank right up there with doctors who practice so badly that people die. We glorify doctors, lawyers, judges, politicians and many other such professionals that WE set some of this up ourselves in our social values and structure. It truely is our fault in a real sense that there are more than 300,000 wrongful deaths per year in Amercan hospitals( highest rate in the world)...we glorify the hell out of the quack doctor simply because it says MD behind his name or RN behind her name. We DO turn a blind eye or deaf ear to most of our shortcomings, especialy if its us the light is focussed on.
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    Re: Judge clears dead Texas man of rape conviction

    1985... DNA wasn't the happening thing back then. This is why we improve how things are done. This is a sad case, but it's also... sadly part of having a criminal justice system.

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    Re: Judge clears dead Texas man of rape conviction

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
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    And this is the State we trust with the largest number of execution in the US including the illegal denial of consultation with consul for Mexican citizens on death row in the State. Yeah, right.
    What does this case have to do with the man who raped and murdered little girls? Absolutely nothing.
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