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    Re: Judge clears dead Texas man of rape conviction

    Well you all know how to fix this. We start requiring DNA samples in order to get government identification and services. If you aren't in the system then you don't get services. That way we have a database set up and when a crime is committed you just run a search.

    But that would be too much of an invasion of privacy for some of our more touchy feely members.
    Affiant further sayeth not.

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    Re: Judge clears dead Texas man of rape conviction

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    What does this case have to do with the man who raped and murdered little girls? Absolutely nothing.
    I think the point is how crooked and retarded the Texas Justice system is.
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    Re: Judge clears dead Texas man of rape conviction

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    What does this case have to do with the man who raped and murdered little girls? Absolutely nothing.
    It has everything to do with a state that does not follow the law and does not respect the rights of defendants, and in this case, clearly convicted the wrong man. People like you are in such a rush to kill people that you escapes you that there is a reason this should be done slowly, deliberately, and following ALL PROPER RULES AND PROCEDURES. This is to ensure with as much care as humanly possible that we don't execute an innocent person.
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    Re: Judge clears dead Texas man of rape conviction

    It's so fun to watch people get excited over cases like this. It's 24 years old. There is a huge tragedy here, but that's why we STRIVE to improve things, to keep such from happening again.

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    Re: Judge clears dead Texas man of rape conviction

    I don't consider the fact that innocent people might be put to death as enough of a reason to not execute people found guilty of murder.

    Any more than the fact that people will be killed if we go to war. They are all innocent too.

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    Re: Judge clears dead Texas man of rape conviction

    If this man has any family? I bet they will sue?

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    Re: Judge clears dead Texas man of rape conviction

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    One of the reasons i do not support Death penalty. How does Texas plan to make it up to him? Raise him from the dead?
    I don't understand why people keep on bringing up the death penalty or capital punishment - the guy was not executed by the state, nor was he on death row. This has nothing to do with the death penalty.


    Quote Originally Posted by Rodney View Post
    You can`t make it up to anyone in this case, but the clowns who put together the fraudulent , or wrongful conviction need to be punished,...never to judge again, law license pulled, serious jail time if anything beyond error can be proven.
    I always hear people say this, but nobody can ever explain why it's the DA/Judge's fault. I'm assuming that in good faith, they took the facts that they had, brought them to a jury, and did their jobs. How the hell were they supposed to have known that this guy was innocent?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I think the point is how crooked and retarded the Texas Justice system is.
    Again, what about this is Texas's fault in particular? Texas has had FAR fewer convictions overturned per capita than states like IL, OK, MO, MA, MT, etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    It has everything to do with a state that does not follow the law and does not respect the rights of defendants, and in this case, clearly convicted the wrong man. People like you are in such a rush to kill people that you escapes you that there is a reason this should be done slowly, deliberately, and following ALL PROPER RULES AND PROCEDURES. This is to ensure with as much care as humanly possible that we don't execute an innocent person.
    1) Again, nobody was in a rush to kill anyone, because the death penalty wasn't even discussed.

    2) Where on earth are you getting support for your claim that they:

    a) "Didn't respect the rights" of the D, or
    b) "Didn't follow all proper rules and procedures"

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    Re: Judge clears dead Texas man of rape conviction

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
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    1) Again, nobody was in a rush to kill anyone, because the death penalty wasn't even discussed.

    2) Where on earth are you getting support for your claim that they:

    a) "Didn't respect the rights" of the D, or
    b) "Didn't follow all proper rules and procedures"

    ?
    Except that this is a State that we already know has denied the right of someone who WAS executed the right to contact representatives of his government.

    We also know that throughout the South, there are corrupt police officers as well as prosecutors who simply want to pad their numbers. This is the reality. Does this make me anti-death penalty? By no means. However, we have to be more careful in its application.
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    Re: Judge clears dead Texas man of rape conviction

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Again, what about this is Texas's fault in particular? Texas has had FAR fewer convictions overturned per capita than states like IL, OK, MO, MA, MT, etc.
    Source............?
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    Re: Judge clears dead Texas man of rape conviction

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Except that this is a State that we already know has denied the right of someone who WAS executed the right to contact representatives of his government.
    While I agree with you that the decision in Medallin was troubling, it was a procedural question that had absolutely nothing to do with his guilt and would not have changed the outcome of the case in any way.

    We also know that throughout the South, there are corrupt police officers as well as prosecutors who simply want to pad their numbers.
    Link? Any evidence that it's worse there than anywhere else?

    This is the reality. Does this make me anti-death penalty? By no means. However, we have to be more careful in its application.
    I agree. But I don't know why that's relevant here, because this case had nothing to do with the death penalty.

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