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    Re: Controversy surrounds Obama's faith office

    Quote Originally Posted by Democrat4life View Post
    Uhm

    Not really. Really. The church is against gays and if they could get away with lynching them all and stringing them from trees you know thye would. And I'm sure if they could launch another crusade against the Muslims they would.

    The christian faith isnt so innocent, nor is it non-violent.

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    Uhm ok.....I would have trouble dumbing myself down to this level. Thanks for the conversation.
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    Re: Controversy surrounds Obama's faith office

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    Curtosy of Jerry: http://www.debatepolitics.com/1057912620-post458.html

    So in reponse to your loaded question:

    I'm comparing the discrimination. Nowhere do I say or even imply that the KKK and faith based charities are the same EXCEPT for their policies of. discrimination.
    The KKK's policy of discrimination is no different than the DNC's or the NAACP's or the ACLU's. In other words, there isn't one. Each organization admits members because those members share something in common.

    So your comparison is garbage.

    Second, the KKK's discrimination is imposed via violence. Not so with any faith-based institution that I know of, unless we go global and go with Islam.

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    Re: Controversy surrounds Obama's faith office

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    The Christian faith is in and of itself ridiculously non-violent and accepting. The human implementation of it is not so much. But on the grander scale, I would agree that some churches (like that one from Kansas) would like to lynch gays and would lead a new war against Muslims. But I would have to say the majority probably not so much. Maybe I'm out of touch with what Christians want these days, I'm an atheist so I don't really keep up with it too much. But I wouldn't go ahead and lump them all into one basket like that.
    Well, the majority of churches are begining to accept the concept of homosexuality but they still b elive it is a sin and all that garbage. So to me, the KKK and faith-based organizations fall under the sam category for me.


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    Uhm ok.....I would have trouble dumbing myself down to this level. Thanks for the conversation.
    ......How would you have to dumb yourself down. Have you not read like 30% of your own posts? Really.
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    Re: Controversy surrounds Obama's faith office

    Quote Originally Posted by JMak View Post
    The KKK's policy of discrimination is no different than the DNC's or the NAACP's or the ACLU's. In other words, there isn't one. Each organization admits members because those members share something in common.
    I acknowledged this. And as I noted the organizations must not discriminate when hiring employees with gov't money. This does not mean they can't discriminate when granting membership. Do you see the difference there? Employee/worker vs member? The article outlines this distinction as well.

    Second, the KKK's discrimination is imposed via violence. Not so with any faith-based institution that I know of, unless we go global and go with Islam.
    I mentioned nothing about KKK violence nor is it relevant to my comparison. I discussed how both groups discriminate when granting membership into their groups. Your objection is a non-sequitur.
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    Re: Controversy surrounds Obama's faith office

    Quote Originally Posted by Democrat4life View Post
    Well, the majority of churches are begining to accept the concept of homosexuality but they still b elive it is a sin and all that garbage.
    It's a church...they're free to believe as they like. If they want to believe it's a sin, let them. Who cares. They can't do anything about it legally, they can't use the government to round up the gays, they can't force them into "therapy", they can't infringe upon their rights; but they are free to believe it if that's what they so desire to believe in.

    Quote Originally Posted by Democrat4life View Post
    So to me, the KKK and faith-based organizations fall under the sam category for me.
    Freedom of speech. In that aspect, yes they are the same. I don't think the government should be funding faith based initiatives. As dan already stated, I didn't like it under Bush and I don't like it under Obama. But I don't think it's cause to disparage against religion as a whole.
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    Re: Controversy surrounds Obama's faith office

    Quote Originally Posted by Democrat4life View Post
    Well, the majority of churches are begining to accept the concept of homosexuality but they still b elive it is a sin and all that garbage. So to me, the KKK and faith-based organizations fall under the sam category for me.


    Hate the sin not the sinner.... Love your enemy.... God is love....... a path to salvation...



    Look at all that hate. please.




    ......How would you have to dumb yourself down. Have you not read like 30% of your own posts? Really.



    Even my dmbest post is like mensa material to your current line of bigotry.


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    Re: Controversy surrounds Obama's faith office

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post


    Even my dmbest post is like mensa material to your current line of bigotry.


    I doubt mensa will be knocking on your door

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    Re: Controversy surrounds Obama's faith office

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    I doubt mensa will be knocking on your door


    nor would I want them, how boring! Lets get a beer instead....
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    Re: Controversy surrounds Obama's faith office

    This entire program of giving money to faith based programs was begun by Bush to pander to the Christian vote. It makes it very sticky for Obama to cut back, though he should. Churches should not be getting taxpayer money.

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