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On a tough day, Obama escapes for a while

Goobieman said:
Had Bush done this, the noise from the left would wake the dead.
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You say that those saying "And the right would've complained about how its no big deal" are wrong simply because Reverend said "no I didn't".

Yet we have someone from the left saying "no, I wouldn't make noise over this if Bush did it".

So, do you have proof you can provide that if Bush had done this the left would wake the dead? Or do you have no more proof they would do it than they have that the right would complain about it, IE anecdotal evidence?
 
americanwoman said:
This is bull****! How dare he take a break!! I mean by law I am allowed 2 breaks and a lunch during my day shift, I would expect more from the guy at the top, like no breaks and no lunch, and certainly no time to visit with children. It's an abomination and I hope we can all agree that taking breaks is distasteful, I mean it's not like we're in the United States of America or something...... :doh
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Irrellevant to my point. Please review the thread for my position, thank you,.
 
Yes, if he said what the AP writer implied he said, that he took the b reak because it was too tough and he was over whelmed, it would be a bad thing to say publicly.

Because the AP reporter took an innocent, normal, completely pointless statement and twisted it into something wholely different than what was actually said, it makes me believe that the AP reporter was a hack that didn't have a good story so would grasp onto ANYTHING to contort, distort, and misrepresent to create a "story" that he could attack Obama with. As such, unless Obama locked himself in his office 24/7 I imagine this guy would've came up with a hit piece against him and even then he probably would've said that the man is "ducking" the media or something during this "trying" time. As such, I do not believe this was a sign of bad judgement on Obama's part as I believe he was the target of an unscrupulous hack reporter simply trying to create a hit piece and would've done such no matter what.

I think the poor judgement falls squarely on the people that give any credance to and attempts to make a story out of the writing of a hack reporter out to make a hit piece without any care for legitimate news or actual accurate reporting.
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
Irrellevant to my point. Please review the thread for my position, thank you,.
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This isn't about you or your point. The premise of the thread is about Obama leaving office for awhile, no? Or is this thread about what you think of it? Like, everyone has to respond to your point or their opinion is irrelevant, got it. :roll:
 
Zyphlin said:
Yes, if he said what the AP writer implied he said, that he took the b reak because it was too tough and he was over whelmed, it would be a bad thing to say publicly.

Because the AP reporter took an innocent, normal, completely pointless statement and twisted it into something wholely different than what was actually said, it makes me believe that the AP reporter was a hack that didn't have a good story so would grasp onto ANYTHING to contort, distort, and misrepresent to create a "story" that he could attack Obama with. As such, unless Obama locked himself in his office 24/7 I imagine this guy would've came up with a hit piece against him and even then he probably would've said that the man is "ducking" the media or something during this "trying" time. As such, I do not believe this was a sign of bad judgement on Obama's part as I believe he was the target of an unscrupulous hack reporter simply trying to create a hit piece and would've done such no matter what.

I think the poor judgement falls squarely on the people that give any credance to and attempts to make a story out of the writing of a hack reporter out to make a hit piece without any care for legitimate news or actual accurate reporting.
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Is this an example of the liberal media creating the news? :mrgreen:
 
americanwoman said:
This isn't about you or your point. The premise of the thread is about Obama leaving office for awhile, no? Or is this thread about what you think of it? Like, everyone has to respond to your point or their opinion is irrelevant, got it. :roll:
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Sure it is. I started the thread, and I posted my opinion.



What you post is not the premise of the thread.


The premise and Zyph, this addresses your post as well. Is the image it casts.

A reporter ran with it. Whos fault is that? Obama made the statments.


If a reporter can do it. So could say the iranian president. Now ahmonajihad thinks Obama is weak. How is that helping with negotiations...


Images and appearances...


Its not a huge thing. just a discussion.
 
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Goobieman said:
Had Bush done this, the noise from the left would wake the dead.
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If Bush had left the White House for 2 hours the noise from the left would wake the dead? Is there some negative IQ test for being a Republican?
 
Look the bottomline is this; just as it was for Bush, so it is for Obama. You are the President 24/7 no matter where you are. It's not a 9-5 job, so it doesn't matter where he goes. It's like a 24/7 working lunch, where he has to make a decision even with a sandwich in his hand. Nuff said.
 
This is assuming that the reporter that ran with it ran with it because he said it, or ran with it becaus he was simply wanting to attack Obama.

You can attack Obama on ANYTHING if you want to. Examples:

Obama takes a break and says to the kids "I wanted to get out of the white house": He's over whelmed and scared

Obama takes a break and see's some kids, but doesn't say anything as to why: "He's over whelmed and scared and afraid to admit it"

Obama doesn't take a break and focus's on his work: "Obama is avoiding the media the day after the Tom Daschal story revved up afraid of admitting his mistake"

Obama doesn't leave the white house but doesn't focus on his work: "Obama is overwhelmed by this situation and is not getting back to picking a new replacement for Daschel, worried that his next may have similar problems".

I could go on and on.

You're assuming this writer did what he did out of complete and utter honesty and worry about what Obama implied by saying it. A kind of attitude to the press i've never see you present before.

Same thing goes with Ahmadinejad.

Obama does nothing about Israel, Ahmadinejad claims he's doing it because he's afraid of making Iran angry and because he's weak.

Obama does something about Israel, Ahmadinejad calls him a liar that lied to the American public and is just continuing the legacy of George Bush.

People who want to criticize will ALWAYS find ways to criticize. Indeed, it requires the good judgement of the public to read these things and decide if they're legitimate worth while criticism or just some ****ing idiot trying to make a story out of nothing.
 
I read what you are posting Zyph. My point is Obama gave this reporter the rope. Image. Image. Image.
 
talloulou said:
I think it was insinuated after much analyzing of his joking comments made to 6 year olds.
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Why do you have to lie? They were 7. :2razz:
 
And what I'm saying is that ANYTHING Obama could've done could've given this reporter the rope if he was looking for rope.

As I said, you can criticize someone for ANYTHING if you're LOOKING to criticize.

Yes, sometimes you do things that make it extremely easy. I do not believe this is one of those cases. I think if he would've packed up and left to go somewhere for 2 weeks or if he said "I'm just overwhelmed in the white house, I needed some time away" then I'd agree. He didn't, he left for a few hours to visit a school with his wife and said he felt like getting out of the white house, to me that isn't making it extremely easy, to me that's a normal statement that the majority of none hyper partisan americans can identify with and wouldn't give a damn about in the least if this AP person didn't decide he needed to attack Obama on something today.
 
American said:
Remember when the liberals were bashing Bush for going on "vacation" all the time. This ***** has been in office for a week and already he needs one.
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Great choice of words there. To get where he is, it takes "not being a *****".


Reverend_Hellh0und said:
If one of my project managers bolted for a few hours during a cutover because it was too much for him, I would fire him.
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Reverend_Hellh0und said:
I think it is.


He is a leader. This is not leadership skillz.
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Reverend_Hellh0und said:
You too miss my point.


It is the reasoning behind it, not the actual act.


It looks weak to bail because your day is too tough.
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So would you vote for your project manager as President of the United States?
It's not even remotely the same leadership skills. It's an entire ball-park. It's like saying if you can coach pee-wee basketball, then you can coach the NBA (NO criticism on your job Good Rev. I am just putting it in perspective to what is required of the PoTUS)

I find it funny how whenever Reagan and Bush took their massive amounts of days off (to their homes, no doubt) that they looked to be "real people", however when Obama goes hangs out with inner-city school children in Washington, DC. he seems to be bailing out on the country.

Goobieman said:
What the Obamanistas won't admit is that if this were Bush, they'd be screaming at the top of their lungs.

But, this is The Messiah. That means this is different.
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This is a trip down the street.
Bush took multiple trips, most of any President, to Crawford, effing, Texas. It is different.
 
Note to all future and current fathers :

If you, for ANY reason, ever feel like stepping outside and having a smoke break, car ride, lunch or drive to pick up a case of altoids, this will obviously imply or/and suggest you can not handle the stresses of being a father and main bread earner in your home.

'Image. Image. Image.'​
 
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Reverend_Hellh0und said:
I read what you are posting Zyph. My point is Obama gave this reporter the rope. Image. Image. Image.
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The more he avoidss the hand hollding coddeling of pr and marketing agents the better I feel about him
 
I personally like when Obama leaves the white house. I break into a sweat every time the news shows him signing something new.
 
shiznit770 said:
If its work related its simply confirming the speculation. No I never get cabin fever since I do stuff during the winter.
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I take it that you get to clock out from your job.
 
independent_thinker2002 said:
I take it that you get to clock out from your job.
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You're missing the point, its not the fact that he stepped out that's t he problem. Its the fact that he represents the people of the USA, to our allies and our enemies. Politics is largely about rhetoric and image. No matter how you spin it, he used poor judgment in making such a comment. There are many other ways to appear "more human" to please the populace, all of which do not send subtle signals weakness.

I think its entirely appropriate to have higher standards for the president than me. What do you think?
 
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