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On a tough day, Obama escapes for a while

Reverend_Hellh0und said:
If one of my project managers bolted for a few hours during a cutover because it was too much for him, I would fire him.
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This seems highly questionable. A burnt out project manager will produce sub-par results which is no good to you or anyone else. The notion that no one should take any breaks at any time is pretty ridiculous. Burnt out project managers often are extremely hard on your staff, which reduces your retention rate, which causes you to spend even more money on hiring new employees and training them. Burnt out project managers are bad project managers. Best business practices seeks to retain good employees by not burning them out. KPMG realizing its 50% turnover rate in staff was not a good thing has enacted over the past couple years new policies to reduce workloads during specific times and increase time spent not on the job.

Thus, I find your statement extremely dubious given business best practices and viable long term growth.
 
Zyphlin said:
Except that's not the explaination given by Obama. Its one speculated about and made up by some random ass AP reporter that, most likely, if this was about Bush would've been lambasted by the majority of republicans on this thread for daring to make **** up about the President.
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"We were just tired of being in the White House," the president candidly told the gleeful second-graders at Capital City Public Charter School.


So what Obama says is now not what he means?


Obama's explanation was that he wanted to get out of the White House for a bit. That's it. YOU and the AP report ASSUME its because its "so tough", but he never says that. The reason could be that he's been working hours upon hours and wanted a break from all the executive stuff for a bit.
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IE "TOO Tough"

The reason could be that he's been in the same general rooms for hours on end, days on end, and wanted to do something else. It could be that he had some time where nothing was immedietely pressing and his wife wanted to go do something. It could be dozens of reasons.
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The latter ok. The former "too tough"


Now you can say its judgement, that it gives the "impression". No, it doesn't, not to the majority of people. You can even look at this thread and it doesn't give that impression to the majority of posters here. It gives the impression to some random ass AP reporter trying to make a story, and a few hyper partisans that would take ANYTHING he does and try to turn it into something that's a lack of judgement, so it wouldn't have mattered if he went, didn't go, commented, didn't comment, etc.
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Actually its right down partisan lines. It gives a bad impression. It is not a huge thing but it is a thing.



They hypocracy of some people on this thread and in the republican party right now blasting Obama for not looking "presidential" because he visited a school for a few hours and said he wanted to get out of the white house. This same type of republican who routinely defended Bush's trips to the ranch and said people making fun of him for talking funny or saying stupid things were being anti american or traitorous or some other kind of thing.
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Nothing to do with the school. Had to do with the impression

""We were just tired of being in the White House," the president candidly told the gleeful second-graders at Capital City Public Charter School.


just as bad as bomb bomb Iran gives a bad impression.



Oh wait, did I out non partisan you right there. :lol:
 
obvious Child said:
This seems highly questionable. A burnt out project manager will produce sub-par results which is no good to you or anyone else. The notion that no one should take any breaks at any time is pretty ridiculous. Burnt out project managers often are extremely hard on your staff, which reduces your retention rate, which causes you to spend even more money on hiring new employees and training them. Burnt out project managers are bad project managers. Best business practices seeks to retain good employees by not burning them out. KPMG realizing its 50% turnover rate in staff was not a good thing has enacted over the past couple years new policies to reduce workloads during specific times and increase time spent not on the job.

Thus, I find your statement extremely dubious given business best practices and viable long term growth.
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What nonsense.


Where did I say "no breaks".... Seriously, are you really going to make up my point then argue it? Please....


And even if one of my project managers can't handle the stress and needs to cut out, fine. But you don't announce it to the customer.



Oh and I have the same project managers I had when I started using them.
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
What nonsense.

Where did I say "no breaks".... Seriously, are you really going to make up my point then argue it? Please.
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No such thing. As Zyphlin clearly pointed out, you took what was a simple break and turned it into something it wasn't. Now, if we properly look at what it actually was rather then your hyperpartisan methamphetamine fueled take on it, my point is quite valid. If you have any actual counterargument rather then mindless chatter, please feel free to make it.

And even if one of my project managers can't handle the stress and needs to cut out, fine. But you don't announce it to the customer.
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But you said you're fire them. Changing your tune aren't you?

Oh and I have the same project managers I had when I started using them.
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Whatever you say. :spin:

You don't fire an otherwise competent manager because he got burnt out. You send him on vacation.

Best Business Practices. You may want to follow them in the future. You know, for long term growth?
 
Its rather simple.

He said he was tired of being in the White House.

Obama never said he needed to escape cause it was too tough, or that he was over whelmed, or anything about it. Its something made up and assumed by this AP reporter and reverend.

Yes, if he said "I'm overwhelmed by my work and its too tough, so I needed out of the white house" I'd agree with reverend. The thing is, that's not what he said in any reality other than in RHH's head.
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
What Message is this sending to the American people?
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That sometimes you just need to step away from a problem, and then come back refreshed and with a new perspective. I've learned that myself over the years. Remarkable how well it works. Good for him.
 
obvious Child said:
No such thing. As Zyphlin clearly pointed out, you took what was a simple break and turned it into something it wasn't. Now, if we properly look at what it actually was rather then your hyperpartisan methamphetamine fueled take on it, my point is quite valid. If you have any actual counterargument rather then mindless chatter, please feel free to make it.
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Once again you want to nit pick a fight. How pathetic.


But you said you're fire them. Changing your tune aren't you?
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Wrong as usual. If they backed out in the middle of a cut over and told the customer they were overwhelmed, I'd fire them.


Anything else is you prevaricating.


Whatever you say. :spin:

You don't fire an otherwise competent manager because he got burnt out. You send him on vacation.
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Once again you are arguing a point you made and attributed to me. FAIL.



Best Business Practices. You may want to follow them in the future. You know, for long term growth?
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I'm doing great. Even in this "worst economy"..... Thanks anyway. :roll:
 
rivrrat said:
That sometimes you just need to step away from a problem, and then come back refreshed and with a new perspective. I've learned that myself over the years. Remarkable how well it works. Good for him.
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I agree. But you do not tell the American people you got overwhelmed and cut out.


it's image. That is my only point.
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
I agree. But you do not tell the American people you got overwhelmed and cut out.


it's image. That is my only point.
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I like the image, personally. You know, that our president is human and not some superhero in training.
 
I do not know how all of you can sit here and insult, attack, avoid my point.


The fact that this article was written shows that you need to watch what you say when image is at stake is important.


Had Obama not said this, there would be no article.
 
shiznit770 said:
Well he probably wasn't bored in the white house, so what else does "tired of being in the white house" mean? I don't think he meant he was physically tired either based on where he escaped to.
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Do you live at the same place you work?

Do you ever get cabin fever in the middle of winter?
 
Goobieman said:
Had Bush done this, the noise from the left would wake the dead.
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And the right would have defended it. Were you hoping for some high ground here?
 
This thread is beyond retarded. Of course Obama views hanging with kids as a break - if he didn't I'd question his sanity.
 
Goobieman said:
Yes - but you aren't very good at it, as evidenced by your lame attempt at misdirection, above.

The fact you're trying to obscure here is that you -would- criticize Bush, but are more than happy to give Obama a pass for the same thing.

Disagree?

Criticize Obama.
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What I'm trying to point out Goobieman, is that this thread is stupid. If it were Dubya, I'd think this thread is stupid. Catch my drift?
 
Middleground said:
What I'm trying to point out Goobieman, is that this thread is stupid. If it were Dubya, I'd think this thread is stupid. Catch my drift?
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If the thread were about W, the majority of those passing this off as nothing would be screaming.
That's MY point. Catch MY drift?
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
Incorrect. I would state it was in poor judgment and that this sends out the wrong image.


Try again.
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I'm sure you can find a thread you started criticizing Bush's brush clearing then. ;)
 
This is bull****! How dare he take a break!! I mean by law I am allowed 2 breaks and a lunch during my day shift, I would expect more from the guy at the top, like no breaks and no lunch, and certainly no time to visit with children. It's an abomination and I hope we can all agree that taking breaks is distasteful, I mean it's not like we're in the United States of America or something...... :doh
 
Goobieman said:
If the thread were about W, the majority of those passing this off as nothing would be screaming.
That's MY point. Catch MY drift?
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If the world trde center were being attacked id expect obama to. Drop the visit and be on the ball
 
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