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On a tough day, Obama escapes for a while

Reverend_Hellh0und said:
I think it is.


He is a leader. This is not leadership skillz.
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Yeah, you're totally right. He should be impeached immediately! How dare he leave the White House for a couple of hours. This is an outrage! :roll:
 
dclxvinoise said:
Yeah, you're totally right. He should be impeached immediately! How dare he leave the White House for a couple of hours. This is an outrage! :roll:
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Reverend_Hellh0und said:
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What exactly are you trying to prove here? Obviously I think you are overreacting by making a big deal out of this and you don't. What more is there to discuss? If you want to turn this into a Captain Picard image war you'll have to find a different participant.
 
No man. There is a legitimate issue of image, and choices and how this can look not presidential. You don't want to discuss, you want to throw out nonsense to avoid the topic as is typical of anything obama and his true believers.




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Reverend_Hellh0und said:
I think it is.


He is a leader. This is not leadership skillz.
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Reverend, you've lost here, give it up. Obama said he was tired of being "in the White House" for that day, not tired of being "leader of the United States."

I don't blame Obama for his choice, as his job is probably more stressful in the first month than many presidents before him. All these withdrawn nominees, pressure from the GOP, the stimulus package, etc.

Remember that Bush escaped the White House for relief as well . . . for 8 years. :roll:
 
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Reverend_Hellh0und said:
No man. There is a legitimate issue of image, and choices and how this can look not presidential. You don't want to discuss, you want to throw out nonsense to avoid the topic as is typical of anything obama and his true believers.




Face palm.....
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Going to visit a school isn't Presidential?
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
No man. There is a legitimate issue of image, and choices and how this can look not presidential. You don't want to discuss, you want to throw out nonsense to avoid the topic as is typical of anything obama and his true believers.
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I'm more than willing to criticize Obama over legitimate stuff. For example, I thought that sending money to other countries for planned parenthood was completely idiotic considering that we are in the middle of an economic crisis. I'm sorry, but I don't consider him leaving the White House for a few hours a big deal. You do sometimes make some legitimate arguments about Obama, but when some of your threads are about little nitpicky idiotic issues like this, it's hard to take you seriously even when you bring up legitimate stuff.
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
No man. There is a legitimate issue of image, and choices and how this can look not presidential. You don't want to discuss, you want to throw out nonsense to avoid the topic as is typical of anything obama and his true believers.




Face palm.....
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Honestly I think it was a great way to approach one of the other topics on his list of priorities: education. Meeting children at that school and making a statement about school systems was a great way to kick off his education reforms.
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
He is a leader. This is not leadership skillz.
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Any US president who devoted themself to the complexities and problems of state 24/7 would quicky wind up mentally drained and physically exhausted.

Probably the most important aspect of the duties of a Chief of Staff is to budget the president's time to prevent executive burn-out.
 
Tashah said:
Any US president who devoted themself to the complexities and problems of state 24/7 would quicky wind up mentally drained and physically exhausted.

Probably the most important aspect of the duties of a Chief of Staff is to budget the president's time to prevent executive burn-out.
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It isn't like he was sneaking out to happy hour or to his mistress.
 
dclxvinoise said:
I'm more than willing to criticize Obama over legitimate stuff. For example, I thought that sending money to other countries for planned parenthood was completely idiotic considering that we are in the middle of an economic crisis. I'm sorry, but I don't consider him leaving the White House for a few hours a big deal. You do sometimes make some legitimate arguments about Obama, but when some of your threads are about little nitpicky idiotic issues like this, it's hard to take you seriously even when you bring up legitimate stuff.
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Can you try to control yourself? This thread is not about me.


I have no problem with him leaving the WH, I have a problem with the whole "this is too tough so I gots to go" explaination. It looks weak.
 
Tashah said:
Any US president who devoted themself to the complexities and problems of state 24/7 would quicky wind up mentally drained and physically exhausted.

Probably the most important aspect of the duties of a Chief of Staff is to budget the president's time to prevent executive burn-out.
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You too miss my point.


It is the reasoning behind it, not the actual act.


It looks weak to bail because your day is too tough.
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
Nothing wrong with that. Giving the appearance of ducking out because **** is too tough for you gives a bad impression in my book.
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Look over there that is a mountain look here this is a mole hole.;)
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
have no problem with him leaving the WH, I have a problem with the whole "this is too tough so I gots to go" explaination. It looks weak.
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I think that it's obvious from the article you posted that him saying that was an attempt at being humorous. Obviously it went over your head. Keep trying to make a bigger issue out of it than it really is, though. :roll:
 
winston53660 said:
Look over there that is a mountain look here this is a mole hole.;)
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Like I said. If one of my project managers did this, I'd fire him.


Sorry I hold the President to a higher standard than you. I think the things he does puts an impression on the world of his character. Ducking when the going gets tough is not the character I want from my president.
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
Can you try to control yourself? This thread is not about me.


I have no problem with him leaving the WH, I have a problem with the whole "this is too tough so I gots to go" explaination. It looks weak.
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Except that's not the explaination given by Obama. Its one speculated about and made up by some random ass AP reporter that, most likely, if this was about Bush would've been lambasted by the majority of republicans on this thread for daring to make **** up about the President.

Obama's explanation was that he wanted to get out of the White House for a bit. That's it. YOU and the AP report ASSUME its because its "so tough", but he never says that. The reason could be that he's been working hours upon hours and wanted a break from all the executive stuff for a bit. The reason could be that he's been in the same general rooms for hours on end, days on end, and wanted to do something else. It could be that he had some time where nothing was immedietely pressing and his wife wanted to go do something. It could be dozens of reasons.

Now you can say its judgement, that it gives the "impression". No, it doesn't, not to the majority of people. You can even look at this thread and it doesn't give that impression to the majority of posters here. It gives the impression to some random ass AP reporter trying to make a story, and a few hyper partisans that would take ANYTHING he does and try to turn it into something that's a lack of judgement, so it wouldn't have mattered if he went, didn't go, commented, didn't comment, etc.

They hypocracy of some people on this thread and in the republican party right now blasting Obama for not looking "presidential" because he visited a school for a few hours and said he wanted to get out of the white house. This same type of republican who routinely defended Bush's trips to the ranch and said people making fun of him for talking funny or saying stupid things were being anti american or traitorous or some other kind of thing.
 
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Reverend_Hellh0und said:
Like I said. If one of my project managers did this, I'd fire him.
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He did something all Presidents have done. So what if it wasn't totally scripted out and vetted through the PR department.

Sorry I hold the President to a higher standard than you.
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I'm not comparing the President of the United States of America to a project manager.:roll:
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
What Message is this sending to the American people?
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What the Obamanistas won't admit is that if this were Bush, they'd be screaming at the top of their lungs.

But, this is The Messiah. That means this is different.
 
I left my house yesterday because I was tired of being cooped up in it for days on end.

What message is this sending to the man in the moon?

I'm super serial.

Funny thing is Bush was the laziest president, and Obama is back to working nights and weekends as Democrats tend to do when they have such a responsibility.

Obama isn't a project manager, he's the CEO.
If the CEO puts in over 40 hours a week, and works late nights/weekends, and during the day takes a 3 hour lunch to decompress, only a completely partisan attack hound would claim it was wrong, and they'd be shown to be absurd in doing so.
 
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I think it's obvious why he went to visit 2nd graders. He was simply looking to hang out with people more mature than those in congress. :doh
 
Goobieman said:
What the Obamanistas won't admit is that if this were Bush, they'd be screaming at the top of their lungs.

But, this is The Messiah. That means this is different.
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What the Bushkevites won't admit is that if this were Bush, they'd be singing his praises at the top of their lungs.

But, this is King Dubya. That means this is different.

See... I can play this game too! :roll: :doh
 
Middleground said:
What the Bushkevites won't admit is that if this were Bush, they'd be singing his praises at the top of their lungs.

But, this is King Dubya. That means this is different.

See... I can play this game too! :roll: :doh
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Yes - but you aren't very good at it, as evidenced by your lame attempt at misdirection, above.

The fact you're trying to obscure here is that you -would- criticize Bush, but are more than happy to give Obama a pass for the same thing.

Disagree?

Criticize Obama.
 
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