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    Re: On a tough day, Obama escapes for a while

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    I read what you are posting Zyph. My point is Obama gave this reporter the rope. Image. Image. Image.
    The more he avoidss the hand hollding coddeling of pr and marketing agents the better I feel about him

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    Re: On a tough day, Obama escapes for a while

    I personally like when Obama leaves the white house. I break into a sweat every time the news shows him signing something new.

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    Re: On a tough day, Obama escapes for a while

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    Do you live at the same place you work?

    Do you ever get cabin fever in the middle of winter?
    If its work related its simply confirming the speculation. No I never get cabin fever since I do stuff during the winter.

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    Re: On a tough day, Obama escapes for a while

    Quote Originally Posted by shiznit770 View Post
    If its work related its simply confirming the speculation. No I never get cabin fever since I do stuff during the winter.
    I take it that you get to clock out from your job.
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    Re: On a tough day, Obama escapes for a while

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    I take it that you get to clock out from your job.
    You're missing the point, its not the fact that he stepped out that's t he problem. Its the fact that he represents the people of the USA, to our allies and our enemies. Politics is largely about rhetoric and image. No matter how you spin it, he used poor judgment in making such a comment. There are many other ways to appear "more human" to please the populace, all of which do not send subtle signals weakness.

    I think its entirely appropriate to have higher standards for the president than me. What do you think?

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    Re: On a tough day, Obama escapes for a while

    Quote Originally Posted by shiznit770 View Post
    You're missing the point, its not the fact that he stepped out that's t he problem. Its the fact that he represents the people of the USA, to our allies and our enemies. Politics is largely about rhetoric and image. No matter how you spin it, he used poor judgment in making such a comment. There are many other ways to appear "more human" to please the populace, all of which do not send subtle signals weakness.

    I think its entirely appropriate to have higher standards for the president than me. What do you think?
    I expect the POTUS to be not so nitpicky and petty. How's that for a higher standard?
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    Re: On a tough day, Obama escapes for a while

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    I expect the POTUS to be not so nitpicky and petty. How's that for a higher standard?
    I'm being reasonable, no reason for your petty remarks....

    Look, its not the end of the world that he said this. It is just not advisable to say such comments often, can you at least acknowledge that?

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    Re: On a tough day, Obama escapes for a while

    Quote Originally Posted by shiznit770 View Post
    I'm being reasonable, no reason for your petty remarks....

    Look, its not the end of the world that he said this. It is just not advisable to say such comments often, can you at least acknowledge that?
    As Zyphlin has pointed out multiple times, people who want to attack him will find a way. What you are saying is that he should have commented. It doesn't make him look weak. Ask the Taliban in Pakistan how weak he is. I'm sure these comments didn't make them forget the bombs that were just dropped there.
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    Re: On a tough day, Obama escapes for a while

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    You're right. Obama taking a couple hours away from the White House to visit a school will undoubtedly get Americans killed. Now was there anything else?
    If it makes him look like he's feeling the effects of pressure this soon into his presidency, if it makes it look like he might not be the stalwart type who can handle a long campaign or insurgency, then yes...it will get Americans killed.

    Yes, he has a hard job. Yes, he's going to need breaks. But you never show it. You never ever under any circumstances let the public know you are having a tough time. As President, you are no longer just a private citizen. You're no longer just "some guy". Because "some regular guy" would wet their pants and cry in a corner if they had to consider nuking another country. Every action, spoken word, and move you make is watched by the world over. You must look like you're on top of everything. Your vacations are scheduled, you don't give the impression that you "need" them. You have to act like a damn immortal. The first few months are critical to the image your allies and enemies will perceive of the President.

    If our allies percieve Obama to be a lightweight, how will the possible trade war develop? If they push for so long maybe he'll cave so lets not give in so easily this time (sorry Wess, the UK caves easy on trade deals). How far does Iran think they can push? You can be the Taleban is wondering just hard far Obama is willing to push an extended campaign in A-stan. Maybe if they hold on for a while longer the Americans will go away.

    The President needs to learn to say, "this was a scheduled event" not "we wanted to get away from the White House". You always project as a stalwart individual, not a regular person unless its to pick up polling points with the public (see Gore's strategic campaign wife kiss). This is Public Relations 101.

    The President screwed up. Rookie mistake. He just needs to learn the ropes.
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    Re: On a tough day, Obama escapes for a while

    Quote Originally Posted by Keorythe View Post
    If it makes him look like he's feeling the effects of pressure this soon into his presidency, if it makes it look like he might not be the stalwart type who can handle a long campaign or insurgency, then yes...it will get Americans killed.

    Yes, he has a hard job. Yes, he's going to need breaks. But you never show it. You never ever under any circumstances let the public know you are having a tough time. As President, you are no longer just a private citizen. You're no longer just "some guy". Because "some regular guy" would wet their pants and cry in a corner if they had to consider nuking another country. Every action, spoken word, and move you make is watched by the world over. You must look like you're on top of everything. Your vacations are scheduled, you don't give the impression that you "need" them. You have to act like a damn immortal. The first few months are critical to the image your allies and enemies will perceive of the President.

    If our allies percieve Obama to be a lightweight, how will the possible trade war develop? If they push for so long maybe he'll cave so lets not give in so easily this time (sorry Wess, the UK caves easy on trade deals). How far does Iran think they can push? You can be the Taleban is wondering just hard far Obama is willing to push an extended campaign in A-stan. Maybe if they hold on for a while longer the Americans will go away.

    The President needs to learn to say, "this was a scheduled event" not "we wanted to get away from the White House". You always project as a stalwart individual, not a regular person unless its to pick up polling points with the public (see Gore's strategic campaign wife kiss). This is Public Relations 101.

    The President screwed up. Rookie mistake. He just needs to learn the ropes.
    Dude...he told some 7 year olds he came to see them cause he wanted a break from the white house....wtf? I'm pretty sure even the crazy Arabs who want to kill Americans take smoke breaks from their jihads from time to time. Seriously. Non-****ing-issue.
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