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    Re: What GOP Leaders deem wasteful in Senate stimulus bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    We support tax breaks for everyone
    Oh really? I haven't seen evidence that you support tax breaks for the lower and middle class, but then that isn't your "base", is it?

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    Re: What GOP Leaders deem wasteful in Senate stimulus bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    I read your statement.
    I then asked:
    What war has cost $1T?
    Are you saying that the cost of Iraq will not eclipse $1 trillion on its own? Bottom line, over $1 trillion dollars will have been taken from private investment and put into US treasuries to secure the funding of the war.

    Regardless, you obviously do not see this as significant.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
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    Re: What GOP Leaders deem wasteful in Senate stimulus bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    This is true. My point was in regards to those who view social spending as atrocious, and military spending holier than holy. Of course, many of those who hold this belief are undoubtedly military/ex military.
    The difference is that military spending is constitutionally mandated while social spending is expressly prohibited by the U.S. Constitution, I am not ex military nor current but am a constitutionalist. I do have a problem with inefficient or inappropriate military spending such as waste, fraud, and ill-advised weaponry/equipment that many politicians sign off on to help out their buddies in the private sector, but that is for another thread.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: What GOP Leaders deem wasteful in Senate stimulus bill

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    Oh really? I haven't seen evidence that you support tax breaks for the lower and middle class, but then that isn't your "base", is it?
    Class warfare talking points as a debate tactic huh? I have seen those enough, they're getting quite boring, but here it is, simplify the tax code to a fair or flat tax and everybody wins, instead of the oppressive progressive income tax, but that makes too much sense to be tried in Washington, so carry on........
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: What GOP Leaders deem wasteful in Senate stimulus bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    Are you saying that the cost of Iraq will not eclipse $1 trillion on its own? Bottom line, over $1 trillion dollars will have been taken from private investment and put into US treasuries to secure the funding of the war.
    I'm STILL wonderng what war has cost us $1T.
    If you cannot tell me which war, and back up that claim that's fine -- just say so.

    Regardless, you obviously do not see this as significant
    For it to be significant, it has to be true.
    So far, that's not been established.

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    Re: What GOP Leaders deem wasteful in Senate stimulus bill

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    Oh really? I haven't seen evidence that you support tax breaks for the lower and middle class, but then that isn't your "base", is it?
    The statement "I suppoprt tax breaks for everyone" -is- evidence.

    -I- would amend that to "I suppoprt tax breaks for everyone that pays taxes"

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    Re: What GOP Leaders deem wasteful in Senate stimulus bill

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    , instead of the oppressive progressive income tax
    I use capital gains (or used before the stock crash) to lower my effective tax rate. You don't? I don't offshore, but I suppose I could do that too.

    Remove progressive taxation, that nearly all economists agree is ideal, and you put more of a burden on lower/middle income, and less on the wealthy. Are you sure about believing that is ideal, because it seems absurd to suggest it.

    Oh noes. The very wealthy are being living under the oppression of higher tax rates! How do they cope? Do they have to sell one of their 7 homes?
    Funny stuff.

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    Re: What GOP Leaders deem wasteful in Senate stimulus bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    This is true. My point was in regards to those who view social spending as atrocious, and military spending holier than holy. Of course, many of those who hold this belief are undoubtedly military/ex military.
    I understand that view point. I don't agree completely with either thing (that social spending is atrocious and military is holier than thou), though I do believe that due to the purpose of the federal government military spending, in general, should be more than social stuff.

    But none of this changes the fact that some in here are trying to argue that the democrats wastefulness doesn't matter becuase the republicans were wasteful too. Or, at the very least, are deflecting from answering or responding to the democrats wastefulness by trying to cite republicans.

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    Oh really? I haven't seen evidence that you support tax breaks for the lower and middle class, but then that isn't your "base", is it?
    Really, cause I believe RHH supported the Bush Tax Cuts and the Bush Tax Cuts did give Tax Breaks to the lower and middle class.

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    Re: What GOP Leaders deem wasteful in Senate stimulus bill

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    Oh really? I haven't seen evidence that you support tax breaks for the lower and middle class, but then that isn't your "base", is it?

    I support tax cuts for everyone who pays taxes.



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    Re: What GOP Leaders deem wasteful in Senate stimulus bill

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I agree. It's sickening. BTW, you forgot one other wasteful spending program - The Iraq War.
    Actually some of the men coming home now were wishing they were back. The pay is good over there while the jobs are scarce here. MANY of them are going back to Iraq as independent contractors where they don't have the same great benefits and safety but at least they have a paying job. Bringing EVERYONE home from Iraq right about now is the ABSOLUTE worse thing Obama could do. Best way to support the troops right now is to let 'em keep that great overseas deployed paycheck. Seriously.
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