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    Re: What GOP Leaders deem wasteful in Senate stimulus bill

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    The point is that if the right wing apologists spend a fraction of the time complaining about money that is REALLY wasted...thrown into the sands of Iraq, perhaps their crocodile tears over accusations of waste would be meaningful.
    As opposed to the Left Wing apologists who justify throwing tax payer dollars into a boondoggle of pork legislation?

    What a profound argument.


    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    Most of the "wasteful" items on that list make sense, if you bother to think about it.
    I have thought about it, and most of them don’t make a bit of sense to me. Do you think debating what makes sense to you constitutes a reasonable line of argument?

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    Buying hybrid cars for government workers? Why not? The auto industry needs the boost, and hybrids are the right choice.
    So you believe that the Government should scrap the cars it is already using and buy a bunch of hybrids at a HUGE cost to the taxpayer is good policy?

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    1.4 billion for rural waste disposal?
    Fascinating claim here; I guess we must all assume that before this bill passes, all the rural waste is being thrown on the side of the roads.

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    How about we put it in your backyard, since you have a problem with it?
    Got hyperbole?

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    Face it, you would object to anything the Democratic majority suggested, so why should we listen to you at all?
    Face it, you would whine about any opposition to the Democrat majority because in your world, it only makes sense if one opposes the former Bush Administration and Republican majority’s right?

    So while you are on this hypocritical rant, please explain to the class how all these two trillions of dollars of Liberal spending are going to be paid for?

    While you are at it, explain how taking money OUT of the economy and spending it on pork barrel projects is going to increase economic activity. You did read my lake analogy right? It’s taking money from the job producers and giving it to someone else. I am not sure how those economics work. I guess you think the Government can just print and borrow money and it won’t have an impact on the value of money or cause rampant inflation eh?

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    Re: What GOP Leaders deem wasteful in Senate stimulus bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    The point is he's doing what liberals bitched about for 8 years to republicans, going "Umm, what we're doing may be bad, but instead of addressing it we'll talk about the last president".

    With many republicans the past 8 years, it was "But Clinton lied!"
    Those gosh darned Republican hypocrites!

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    Re: What GOP Leaders deem wasteful in Senate stimulus bill

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    Oh, and the Republicans did such a fantastic job saving money these last 8 years.
    So because you think the Republicans did such a bad job spending money, that makes this okay?

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    Re: What GOP Leaders deem wasteful in Senate stimulus bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Those gosh darned Republican hypocrites!
    Nope, this one is pointing out liberal hypocrites.

    Though if you really want to get technical, republicans that went "But Clinton but Clinton!" complaining about a liberal going "But Bush but Bush" is ALSO a bit of a hypocrite.

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    Re: What GOP Leaders deem wasteful in Senate stimulus bill

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    The point is that if the right wing apologists spend a fraction of the time complaining about money that is REALLY wasted...thrown into the sands of Iraq, perhaps their crocodile tears over accusations of waste would be meaningful.

    Most of the "wasteful" items on that list make sense, if you bother to think about it. Buying hybrid cars for government workers? Why not? The auto industry needs the boost, and hybrids are the right choice. 1.4 billion for rural waste disposal? How about we put it in your backyard, since you have a problem with it? Face it, you would object to anything the Democratic majority suggested, so why should we listen to you at all?
    This should not be such a difficult concept, but for the fourth time:

    NOBODY IS SAYING THESE THINGS ARE NECESSARILY BAD. The point is just that they have no place in an economic stimulus package, as they are at best tangentially related to economic stimulii. This is not exclusively a Republican argument. This is common sense.


    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    Oh, and the Republicans did such a fantastic job saving money these last 8 years.
    What does that have to do with the question of whether or not these things should be in the stimulus bill?

    If two people punch you in the face, you don't excuse the second because he didn't hit you as hard as the first one.

    (Yet).
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    Re: What GOP Leaders deem wasteful in Senate stimulus bill

    It is amusing to see Liberals and Democrats justify their largess by suggesting that Republicans should just roll over and play dead now that they are in charge and that we should ignore the fact that they are getting ready to spend this Nation into an inflationary spiral and level of debt that will make Jimmy Carter look like a financial wiz kid.

    Has anyone on the Left asked themselves who will pay for all this? There are only so many rich people you can confiscate money from; then what? Remember that Democrats claimed when they took over congress; that they were going to "pay as they go?" Whatever happened to fiscal responsibility and pay as you go?

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    Re: What GOP Leaders deem wasteful in Senate stimulus bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Though if you really want to get technical, republicans that went "But Clinton but Clinton!" complaining about a liberal going "But Bush but Bush" is ALSO a bit of a hypocrite.
    Let's get technical; my memory of Republicans referring to Clinton all the time seemed to mostly have occurred when Democrats pointed to Clinton as some kind of miracle cure to all the worlds’ ills and the ONLY person to ever have a surplus. You seem to remember it different.

    Mind you, I am not saying ALL Republicans/Conservatives are not guilty of some hypocrisy, but to watch you, you would think that it was a constant recurring theme.

    I know, this is just more of your effort to show how non-partisan you are; check!

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    Re: What GOP Leaders deem wasteful in Senate stimulus bill

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    If two people punch you in the face, you don't excuse the second because he didn't hit you as hard as the first one.

    (Yet).
    Well, if the first punch knocked you out, you wouldn't be able to excuse the second one and/or notice if they hadn't punched you as hard as the first one; just sayin.

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    Re: What GOP Leaders deem wasteful in Senate stimulus bill

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    Oh, and the Republicans did such a fantastic job saving money these last 8 years.
    Two wrongs don't make a right.

    Why do Liberals think attacking others absolves them from responsibilty of their own actions? Grow up.
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    Re: What GOP Leaders deem wasteful in Senate stimulus bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    So because you think the Republicans did such a bad job spending money, that makes this okay?
    He makes a good point, aps, except for one thing. He and others ranted about Clinton the whole time Bush was in office (Clinton penis envy), but that's neither here nor there. Obama is the one in power now, and should be the one we focus on.
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