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    Re: What GOP Leaders deem wasteful in Senate stimulus bill

    Let's look at this "wasteful spending" another way, based on the $600 billion dollar expense of the war in Iraq so far, which costs American taxpayers $300 million each day

    A $246 million tax break for Hollywood movie producers to buy motion picture film.
    23 hours of the war in Iraq
    $650 million for the digital television converter box coupon program.
    2 days of the war in Iraq
    $88 million for the Coast Guard to design a new polar icebreaker (arctic ship).
    6 hours of the war in Iraq
    $448 million for constructing the Department of Homeland Security headquarters.
    1.5 days of the war in Iraq
    $248 million for furniture at the new Homeland Security headquarters.
    23 hours of the war in Iraq
    $600 million to buy hybrid vehicles for federal employees.
    2 days of the war in Iraq
    $400 million for the Centers for Disease Control to screen and prevent STD's.
    30 hours of the war in Iraq
    $1.4 billion for rural waste disposal programs.
    4.5 days of the war in Iraq
    $125 million for the Washington sewer system.
    10 hours of the war in Iraq
    $150 million for Smithsonian museum facilities.
    12 hours of the war in Iraq
    $1 billion for the 2010 Census, which has a projected cost overrun of $3 billion.
    3 days of the war in Iraq
    $75 million for "smoking cessation activities."
    6 hours of the war in Iraq
    $200 million for public computer centers at community colleges.
    18 hours of the war in Iraq
    $75 million for salaries of employees at the FBI.
    6 hours of the war in Iraq
    $25 million for tribal alcohol and substance abuse reduction.
    2 hours of the war in Iraq
    $500 million for flood reduction. projects on the Mississippi River.
    1.6 days of the war in Iraq
    $10 million to inspect canals in urban areas.
    40 minutes of the war in Iraq
    $6 billion to turn federal buildings into "green" buildings.
    a whopping 2 weeks of the war in Iraq
    $500 million for state and local fire stations.
    1.5 days of the war in Iraq
    $650 million for wildland fire management on forest service lands.
    2 days of the war in Iraq
    $1.2 billion for "youth activities," including youth summer job programs.
    4 days of the war in Iraq
    $88 million for renovating the headquarters of the Public Health Service.
    7 hours of the war in Iraq
    $412 million for CDC buildings and property.
    30 hours of the war in Iraq
    $500 million for building and repairing National Institutes of Health facilities in Bethesda, Maryland.
    36 hours of the war in Iraq
    $160 million for "paid volunteers" at the Corporation for National and Community Service.
    12 hours of the war in Iraq
    $5.5 million for "energy efficiency initiatives" at the Department of Veterans Affairs National Cemetery Administration.
    25 minutes of the war in Iraq
    $850 million for Amtrak.
    2.5 days of the war in Iraq
    $100 million for reducing the hazard of lead-based paint.
    8 hours of the war in Iraq
    $75 million to construct a "security training" facility for State Department Security officers when they can be trained at existing facilities of other agencies.
    6 hours of the war in Iraq
    $110 million to the Farm Service Agency to upgrade computer systems.
    8 hours of the war in Iraq
    $200 million in funding for the lease of alternative energy vehicles for use on military installations.
    16 hours of the war in Iraq

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    Re: What GOP Leaders deem wasteful in Senate stimulus bill

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    Let's look at this "wasteful spending" another way, based on the $600 billion dollar expense of the war in Iraq so far, which costs American taxpayers $300 million each day
    All of which has nothing to do with whether or not these should be included in the stimulus. Well done.
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    Re: What GOP Leaders deem wasteful in Senate stimulus bill

    I want to use this analogy again for those on the left side of the aisle who are confused about what it is the Liberals in Congress and the White House are telling you;

    Imagine if you will that the economy is this huge lake. The water in the lake is currently going down. The democrat solution is to dip buckets into this lake, walk over to the other side of the lake and have a press conference showing the pouring the water back into the lake while claiming they are filling it back up and doing something for the American people.

    Carry on.

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    Re: What GOP Leaders deem wasteful in Senate stimulus bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    ...in hopes that no one will actually pay much attention to what it really contains.
    Bingo.

    Nothing to see here folks... move along now.
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    Re: What GOP Leaders deem wasteful in Senate stimulus bill

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    Let's look at this "wasteful spending" another way, based on the $600 billion dollar expense of the war in Iraq so far, which costs American taxpayers $300 million each day

    A $246 million tax break for Hollywood movie producers to buy motion picture film.
    23 hours of the war in Iraq
    $650 million for the digital television converter box coupon program.
    2 days of the war in Iraq
    $88 million for the Coast Guard to design a new polar icebreaker (arctic ship).
    6 hours of the war in Iraq
    $448 million for constructing the Department of Homeland Security headquarters.
    1.5 days of the war in Iraq
    $248 million for furniture at the new Homeland Security headquarters.
    23 hours of the war in Iraq
    $600 million to buy hybrid vehicles for federal employees.
    2 days of the war in Iraq
    $400 million for the Centers for Disease Control to screen and prevent STD's.
    30 hours of the war in Iraq
    $1.4 billion for rural waste disposal programs.
    4.5 days of the war in Iraq
    $125 million for the Washington sewer system.
    10 hours of the war in Iraq
    $150 million for Smithsonian museum facilities.
    12 hours of the war in Iraq
    $1 billion for the 2010 Census, which has a projected cost overrun of $3 billion.
    3 days of the war in Iraq
    $75 million for "smoking cessation activities."
    6 hours of the war in Iraq
    $200 million for public computer centers at community colleges.
    18 hours of the war in Iraq
    $75 million for salaries of employees at the FBI.
    6 hours of the war in Iraq
    $25 million for tribal alcohol and substance abuse reduction.
    2 hours of the war in Iraq
    $500 million for flood reduction. projects on the Mississippi River.
    1.6 days of the war in Iraq
    $10 million to inspect canals in urban areas.
    40 minutes of the war in Iraq
    $6 billion to turn federal buildings into "green" buildings.
    a whopping 2 weeks of the war in Iraq
    $500 million for state and local fire stations.
    1.5 days of the war in Iraq
    $650 million for wildland fire management on forest service lands.
    2 days of the war in Iraq
    $1.2 billion for "youth activities," including youth summer job programs.
    4 days of the war in Iraq
    $88 million for renovating the headquarters of the Public Health Service.
    7 hours of the war in Iraq
    $412 million for CDC buildings and property.
    30 hours of the war in Iraq
    $500 million for building and repairing National Institutes of Health facilities in Bethesda, Maryland.
    36 hours of the war in Iraq
    $160 million for "paid volunteers" at the Corporation for National and Community Service.
    12 hours of the war in Iraq
    $5.5 million for "energy efficiency initiatives" at the Department of Veterans Affairs National Cemetery Administration.
    25 minutes of the war in Iraq
    $850 million for Amtrak.
    2.5 days of the war in Iraq
    $100 million for reducing the hazard of lead-based paint.
    8 hours of the war in Iraq
    $75 million to construct a "security training" facility for State Department Security officers when they can be trained at existing facilities of other agencies.
    6 hours of the war in Iraq
    $110 million to the Farm Service Agency to upgrade computer systems.
    8 hours of the war in Iraq
    $200 million in funding for the lease of alternative energy vehicles for use on military installations.
    16 hours of the war in Iraq
    There must be a POINT here but I am having difficulty getting it.

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    Re: What GOP Leaders deem wasteful in Senate stimulus bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    There must be a POINT here but I am having difficulty getting it.
    The point is he's doing what liberals bitched about for 8 years to republicans, going "Umm, what we're doing may be bad, but instead of addressing it we'll talk about the last president".

    With many republicans the past 8 years, it was "But Clinton lied!"

    With democrats not it'll be, "But Iraq!"

    None of which changes the fact that its wasteful spending in a bill that's supposed to be for emergency stimulation of the economy. But see, he can't actually counter that point, so he has to deflect, jive, dance, and go off on stupid tangents.

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    Re: What GOP Leaders deem wasteful in Senate stimulus bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    None of which changes the fact that its wasteful spending in a bill that's supposed to be for emergency stimulation of the economy. But see, he can't actually counter that point, so he has to deflect, jive, dance, and go off on stupid tangents.
    Which is why it's great we have checks and balances with the Senate.

    I think this all smells of ignorance on how to stimulate the economy. No one on either side of the political spectrum has a definite idea on how to bring the economy back up and they are obviously trying for everything in the hopes something will stick. I haven't seen anything different coming from either political party.

    It's a good think I believe the market will correct itself.
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    Re: What GOP Leaders deem wasteful in Senate stimulus bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    There must be a POINT here but I am having difficulty getting it.

    The point is that if the right wing apologists spend a fraction of the time complaining about money that is REALLY wasted...thrown into the sands of Iraq, perhaps their crocodile tears over accusations of waste would be meaningful.

    Most of the "wasteful" items on that list make sense, if you bother to think about it. Buying hybrid cars for government workers? Why not? The auto industry needs the boost, and hybrids are the right choice. 1.4 billion for rural waste disposal? How about we put it in your backyard, since you have a problem with it? Face it, you would object to anything the Democratic majority suggested, so why should we listen to you at all?

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    Re: What GOP Leaders deem wasteful in Senate stimulus bill

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    What GOP Leaders deem wasteful in Senate stimulus bill - CNN.com



    Wow I didn't know anti smoking adds, STD programs, hybrid cars, tax breaks for movie produces, museums, and green buildings stimulated the economy.

    What a bunch of ****ing pork for special interests passed under the disguise of "stimulus".

    As much as I can see why these funds would be needed during NORMAL economic times they are simply a waste of money right now and dig us deeper into a hole.

    The dems really know how to blow through money.
    Oh, and the Republicans did such a fantastic job saving money these last 8 years.

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    Re: What GOP Leaders deem wasteful in Senate stimulus bill

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    All of which has nothing to do with whether or not these should be included in the stimulus. Well done.
    Yes, you are correct; however, it addresses the OP's statement about how Democrats really know how to blow through money.

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