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    Re: What GOP Leaders deem wasteful in Senate stimulus bill

    Lets look at some of them

    $448 million for constructing the Department of Homeland Security headquarters. $248 million for furniture at the new Homeland Security headquarters.


    How exactly is this pork? The Bush administration and the Republicans championed this red tape organisation.. so now they dont want to house it? Wont the construction employ hundreds if not thousands of Americans?

    $600 million to buy hybrid vehicles for federal employees.
    Fear that the US government should actually save on gasoline bills.. This smells of Detroit buying off the Republicans because Detroit does not have hybrids that are worth a damn yet.

    $400 million for the Centers for Disease Control to screen and prevent STD's.
    Sounds sensible. If they can prevent STD's then they will save on medical bills.. oh wait, that is not what the HMO's and drug companies want... Smells again of industry pressure.

    $125 million for the Washington sewer system.
    Sounds sensible. Bet the Washington sewer system is like many old cities.. a total wreck.

    $1 billion for the 2010 Census, which has a projected cost overrun of $3 billion.
    Again smells of Republican sewer tactics.. wonder if they are worried that a new census will weaken their grip on power even more.

    $75 million for "smoking cessation activities."
    Ahn I see the tobacco companies at work here. Spend 75 million and maybe save hundreds of millions in medical bills in the future.. worth it if you ask me.

    $200 million for public computer centers at community colleges.
    So only those with money should have access to an education and computer facilities?

    $25 million for tribal alcohol and substance abuse reduction.
    Yea dont get those native american's off the juice.. typical Republican bull****.

    $500 million for flood reduction. projects on the Mississippi River.
    So spend 500 million to save billions in damage due to the river going over its banks? What is not sensible in that? Or do the insurance companies like to pay out billions in damages?

    $6 billion to turn federal buildings into "green" buildings.
    Very sensible.. Extremely sensible and will put tons of people into work. Not to mention the savings for the government in heating and power.

    Lets just stop there.. sure there are pork projects that you ask.. wtf are they thinking, but that whole list is full of things that will benefit the US economy now and in the future.
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    Re: What GOP Leaders deem wasteful in Senate stimulus bill

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    How exactly is this pork?
    Like almost everything else noted here, it is spendng that does nothing to further the objective of the bill.

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    Re: What GOP Leaders deem wasteful in Senate stimulus bill

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Lets look at some of them
    You've completely missed the point. This emergency stimulus bill is being rushed through Congress because we supposedly need to stimulate the economy RIGHT NOW. Cleaning the DC sewers and buying computers for community colleges might be great ideas, but they are not emergencies, nor are they directly related to stimulating the economy. They should be discussed and voted on in the course of the normal legislative process.
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    Re: What GOP Leaders deem wasteful in Senate stimulus bill

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    You've completely missed the point. This emergency stimulus bill is being rushed through Congress because we supposedly need to stimulate the economy RIGHT NOW. Cleaning the DC sewers and buying computers for community colleges might be great ideas, but they are not emergencies, nor are they directly related to stimulating the economy. They should be discussed and voted on in the course of the normal legislative process.
    ...in hopes that no one will actually pay much attention to what it really contains.

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    Re: What GOP Leaders deem wasteful in Senate stimulus bill

    And yet you support further tax breaks for billionaires.

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    Re: What GOP Leaders deem wasteful in Senate stimulus bill

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    You've completely missed the point. This emergency stimulus bill is being rushed through Congress because we supposedly need to stimulate the economy RIGHT NOW. Cleaning the DC sewers and buying computers for community colleges might be great ideas, but they are not emergencies, nor are they directly related to stimulating the economy. They should be discussed and voted on in the course of the normal legislative process.
    So what do you recommend?

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    Re: What GOP Leaders deem wasteful in Senate stimulus bill

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    And yet you support further tax breaks for billionaires.
    I support tax breaks for -everyone- that pays taxes.

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    Re: What GOP Leaders deem wasteful in Senate stimulus bill

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    And yet you support further tax breaks for billionaires.
    What a trite little talking point I see you and others like to use; but the irony is that it is not supported by any facts, truth or REALITY.

    Why do you think using the same tired talking point would ever change that fact? Do you think if you repeat the same lie enough times it might just make it true?

    I support giving taxpayers and businesses more of their money back because the FACT is that by having more of what you earn, you spend it, save it, invest it and expand new businesses with it. Isn't that what helping the economy is all about? Or are you one of those people who have been fooled into thinking that the Government can do the same thing by confiscating money from one group of people and giving it to another for the purely political purpose of creating a dependent class of citizens who will vote for them?

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    Re: What GOP Leaders deem wasteful in Senate stimulus bill

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    And yet you support further tax breaks for billionaires.
    Link?
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    Re: What GOP Leaders deem wasteful in Senate stimulus bill

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    So what do you recommend?
    Passing a stimulus bill that only contains the main things that are directly intended to stimulate the economy. Everything else can be handled the way it's always handled.

    If you really buy the Dem's argument that this thing needs to be passed as soon as possible, then the decision by the Dems to include this stuff is only hurting their cause. It just creates additional controversy and arguments that wouldn't be there if this were a clean bill.
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