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    Re: FEMA condemned for slow response to ice storm crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    So he should have issued an executive order disbanding FEMA or telling FEMA to get their **** together and that would have led to a positive response from FEMA 10 days later?
    No, but a statement from him earlier would have gone a long way. The suffering in those effected areas has had very little press. Very few outside the areas knew what was going on. It was the same last December when Northern New England suffered a devastating ice storm.

    Having said that, I do want to make my position clear that I think people need to prepare and take care of their families as though the gov't wasn't there to help. I just think that whenever something appeared to have failed under the Bush Administration, fingers middle ones) pointed his way all over the media, rock concerts ... etc. Now we hear nary a peep of critique. What's good for the Bush is good for the Obama.
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    Re: FEMA condemned for slow response to ice storm crisis

    Having worked hand in hand with FEMA I MUST point out a few things that gets lost in the confusion of the blame game.

    FEMA can not just roll in until the president declares a major disaster and this WONT happen until local or state officials have declare a state of emergency.


    1. Local or state officials declare a state of emergency. Local emergency crews and first responders work to deal with the disaster as best they can.

    2. State agencies respond. This can include National Guard troops.

    3. Officials assess the damage.

    4. The governor of the state involved makes an official request for a disaster declaration, based on the damage assessment.

    5. FEMA makes a recommendation to the president, who either approves or denies the request.

    6. Once a presidential disaster declaration is made, FEMA can start providing assistance.


    People must become more self reliant and STOP assuming the government will ride in and save the day.

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    Re: FEMA condemned for slow response to ice storm crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by StandUpChuck View Post
    No, but a statement from him earlier would have gone a long way. The suffering in those effected areas has had very little press. Very few outside the areas knew what was going on. It was the same last December when Northern New England suffered a devastating ice storm.
    The press not covering the storm as diligently as you think they should is hardly the President's fault. Obama did sign federal emergency declarations for Kentucky last week.

    Quote Originally Posted by StandUpChuck View Post
    Having said that, I do want to make my position clear that I think people need to prepare and take care of their families as though the gov't wasn't there to help. I just think that whenever something appeared to have failed under the Bush Administration, fingers middle ones) pointed his way all over the media, rock concerts ... etc. Now we hear nary a peep of critique. What's good for the Bush is good for the Obama.
    Personally I didn't blame Bush for the Katrina response. I blamed the local governments for the failed preparations and FEMA for their delayed response. Where Bush was at fault was his appointment of a insufficient FEMA director.

    I would have no problem giving Obama some fault for FEMA if this occurred in a few months when he had time to actually review FEMA.
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    Re: FEMA condemned for slow response to ice storm crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by cherokee View Post
    Having worked hand in hand with FEMA I MUST point out a few things that gets lost in the confusion of the blame game.

    FEMA can not just roll in until the president declares a major disaster and this WONT happen until local or state officials have declare a state of emergency.


    1. Local or state officials declare a state of emergency. Local emergency crews and first responders work to deal with the disaster as best they can.

    2. State agencies respond. This can include National Guard troops.

    3. Officials assess the damage.

    4. The governor of the state involved makes an official request for a disaster declaration, based on the damage assessment.

    5. FEMA makes a recommendation to the president, who either approves or denies the request.

    6. Once a presidential disaster declaration is made, FEMA can start providing assistance.


    People must become more self reliant and STOP assuming the government will ride in and save the day.
    This occurred late last week.

    Obama approves disaster declaration for Kentucky - Thursday, Jan. 29, 2009 - Kentucky.com
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    Re: FEMA condemned for slow response to ice storm crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    The press not covering the storm as diligently as you think they should is hardly the President's fault. Obama did sign federal emergency declarations for Kentucky last week.


    Personally I didn't blame Bush for the Katrina response. I blamed the local governments for the failed preparations and FEMA for their delayed response. Where Bush was at fault was his appointment of a insufficient FEMA director.

    I would have no problem giving Obama some fault for FEMA if this occurred in a few months when he had time to actually review FEMA.
    If Obama was talking about it, the news stations would be talking about it.

    It doesn't take a few months to get on the phone to FEMA and tell them to get moving.
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    Re: FEMA condemned for slow response to ice storm crisis

    Strong Partnerships Speed FEMA Response To Kentucky's Winter Storm

    Release Date: February 1, 2009
    Release Number: 3302-003

    More Information on Kentucky Severe Winter Storm

    ATLANTA, Ga. -- After last week's severe winter storm knocked out power, radio and phone service in many areas of Kentucky, the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) went into action providing direct response and relief, and coordinating efforts of federal partner agencies to help where Kentucky needs it.

    The declared emergency made immediate federal assistance available. FEMA dispatched portable radio towers and satellite uplink trucks to Kentucky to bridge the storm-produced communications gap. Since Thursday, FEMA has coordinated deliveries of commodities, equipment and provided technical assistance requested by Kentucky Division of Emergency Management.

    Emergency management professionals say the key to effective disaster response is those close partnerships.

    "It's our job to respond directly with our own resources and to facilitate the aid from our federal partners," said FEMA Regional Administrator Phil May.

    In Kentucky, FEMA's coordination has extended to agencies handling transportation issues, public works, medical services, sheltering, logistics support, food supplies and others at federal, state and non-governmental levels.

    Federal agencies helping in the emergency response to Kentucky include:

    * U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, conducting site assessment and directing installation of emergency generators; conducting debris clearing;
    * U.S. Department of Transportation, through the Kentucky Transportation Cabinet, monitoring road conditions, airports, rail lines and transit systems;
    * The American Red Cross, Salvation Army and Southern Baptist Convention, providing shelters and meals;
    * U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, the Kentucky Cabinet for Health and Family Services, the Kentucky Hospital Association and agencies in other southeastern states to determine the status of medical facilities and the need for specialized medical care in shelters and elsewhere.

    "FEMA will continue working hard to meet the emergency needs of the people of Kentucky," May said.

    FEMA: Strong Partnerships Speed FEMA Response To Kentucky's Winter Storm

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    Re: FEMA condemned for slow response to ice storm crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by cherokee View Post
    Strong Partnerships Speed FEMA Response To Kentucky's Winter Storm
    Imagine that... FEMA is doing a great job........according to FEMA.

    The folks around here would disagree.

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    Re: FEMA condemned for slow response to ice storm crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    If Obama was talking about it, the news stations would be talking about it.
    Speculation. The news stations report on what keeps ratings up. They aren't going to spend time releasing redundant storm reports. They don't care about the people or Obama, they are about their rating, and thus their sponsors.

    I personally haven't experienced them not talking about it though. The Today show in the morning and my local news at night has reported on the storms atl east once each night. Of course it hasn't bee a news special report or interrupting any regular programming.
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    Re: FEMA condemned for slow response to ice storm crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    Speculation. The news stations report on what keeps ratings up. They aren't going to spend time releasing redundant storm reports. They don't care about the people or Obama, they are about their rating, and thus their sponsors.

    I personally haven't experienced them not talking about it though. The Today show in the morning and my local news at night has reported on the storms atl east once each night. Of course it hasn't bee a news special report or interrupting any regular programming.
    Your kidding right?? The MSM fall over themselves to breathlessly report every little thing Obama does and says.

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    Re: FEMA condemned for slow response to ice storm crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Your kidding right?? The MSM fall over themselves to breathlessly report every little thing Obama does and says.
    Now your taking partisan stereotypes and trying to apply them to reality. Yes overall MSN is more left-leaning but to suggest they are lacking to cover this storm because Obama doesn't hold more press releases on the matter is absurd.

    MSN, CNN, and Fox are all reporting on the storm in the same way on their websites. Are they all failing to report because Obama doesn't speak about it? Why does the President need to speak about it? Obama isn't speaking about the Super Bowl and they seem to have no problem covering that as their top story.
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