Re: Into Pakistan?
Is "Bloody Borders" some sort of literature? Or a section of the Kuran?
Bloody borders refers to the ring of violent uprising and terrorism that overlaps areas, coincidently I'm sure, where Islam is intersecting with other religions.
I don't understand why you consider Islam a faith of destruction, but you are not saying the same thing for Christianity.
Because my argument isn't contingent on the extremist expression of faith. This viewpoint is often constructed upon a false equivalence by people who think that the tenets of Islam are basically just like the tenets of Christianity, but with some minor, inconsequential variations. For instance, Christianity is built on the separation of religious life from non-religious life, but Islam is not. That has very far reaching implications as Islamic voices begin to be heard in a Democratic society. Another point of
difference:
Apostasy in Islam (Arabic: ??????, irtidad or ridda?) is commonly defined as the rejection in word or deed of their former religion (apostasy) by a person who was previously a follower of Islam.
The four major Sunni Madh'hab (schools of Islamic jurisprudence) and the Twelver Shi'a Jafari madhab agree that a sane adult male apostate must be executed.[1] They differ on the punishment for a female apostate - some schools calling for death and others for imprisonment. According to Wael Hallaq nothing of the apostasy law are derived from the Qur'an,[2] although the jurist al-Shafi'i interpreted the Qu'ranic verse 2:217 as providing the main evidence for apostasy being a capital crime in Islam.[3]
A minority of medieval Islamic jurists, such as Hanafi jurist Sarakhsi,[4] Maliki jurist Abu al-Walid al-Baji, and Hanbali jurist Ibn Taymiyyah,[5] and some contemporary Islamic jurists, such as Shafi`i Grand Mufti Ali Gomaa[6][7] and Shi'a Grand Ayatollah Hossein-Ali Montazeri,[8] argued or issued fatwas that either the changing of religion is not punishable or is only punishable under restricted circumstances, but these minority opinions have not found broad acceptance among the majority of Islamic scholars.
This isn't an extremist vision of Islam, this is mainstream Islam.
Both faiths have extremist wings who wish for the death of innocent people, in the veil of their religion.
This is an argument not driven by facts, but by the desire to construct an argumentative framework which advances the goal of equivalence.
To truly understand religion one must first understand that religions are not about destruction, but about bringing together.
Again, this is a position that is not grounded in scholarship, or not completely, for you are correct that Islam would very much like to bring the world together, with the proviso that everyone is following Islam. Short of that, no, you're incorrect.
After 9/11 the most striking non-event for me was the utter lack of patriotic spirit that didn't materialize from Muslim Americans. When Japanese-Americans in WWII were seen as not assimilating to American values we saw the
formation of:
The 442nd Infantry, formerly the 442nd Regimental Combat Team of the United States Army, was an Asian American unit composed of mostly Japanese Americans who fought in Europe during the Second World War.[1] The families of many of its soldiers were subject to internment. The 442nd was a self-sufficient fighting force, and fought with uncommon distinction in Italy, southern France, and Germany. The unit became the most highly decorated military unit in the history of the United States Armed Forces, including 21 Medal of Honor recipients, earning the nickname “The Purple Heart Battalion.”
What do Americans see from out Muslim-American citizens? Vocal support for their religious compatriots in other lands taking precedence over support for American foreign policy goals. In fact, in Patterson, NJ we saw video of Muslims dancing joyously at the sight of the towers falling.
Sure, a good deal of the blame for this falls on multicultural fetishists who "celebrate diversity" and view strong assimilative customs as barbaric, but if these are the new rules of our modern era, then we're looking at fundamental incompatibilities between Western values and those held by religious Muslims.
