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    Re: Phelps apologizes for 'bad judgment' after marijuana photo

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    So, if a law doesn't make something right or wrong what does?
    It's purely subjective.

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    Re: Phelps apologizes for 'bad judgment' after marijuana photo

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    I'm merely claiming that if I feel a law is unjust I will not apologize for breaking said law.
    This comment is fine, you are stating an opinion, I have no problem with that. It is an opinion I happen to agree with.

    To me it is just funny to see such support for Phelps in this, yet many others couldn't give two shakes of a piss for some common Joe serving in Prison.

    To me it's the old, "You're famous and win gold medals so you are above the law" type thing.

    I hate the celebrity bull**** with a pasion. In America there are two courts essentially, those for the regular people and those for the famous.

    I just hate seeing support from people for Phelps and not the common Joe. I am not accusing you of this but many people do hold different standards.

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    Re: Phelps apologizes for 'bad judgment' after marijuana photo

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    It's purely subjective.
    I agree 100%

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    Re: Phelps apologizes for 'bad judgment' after marijuana photo

    This comment is fine, you are stating an opinion, I have no problem with that. It is an opinion I happen to agree with.

    To me it is just funny to see such support for Phelps in this, yet many others couldn't give two shakes of a piss for some common Joe serving in Prison.

    To me it's the old, "You're famous and win gold medals so you are above the law" type thing.

    I hate the celebrity bull**** with a pasion. In America there are two courts essentially, those for the regular people and those for the famous.

    I just hate seeing support from people for Phelps and not the common Joe. I am not accusing you of this but many people do hold different standards.
    Absolutely. Even more reason why he should not apologize. He should make a stand on behalf of all those unjustly imprisoned and arrested. Now, obviously, I don't expect him to do that and I guess I can't really fault him for it since he has a career to think about, but it would have been the right thing to do. I don't think Muhummad Ali would have apologized...he would have stood tall and proud and proclaimed, "I am STILL the greatest!"

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    Re: Phelps apologizes for 'bad judgment' after marijuana photo

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    Come to Livingston County, Illinois. You would be wrong.
    According to this, in IL, if you have under 2.5g, it's probation on your first conviction, and up to 30 days with subsequent convictions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    Yes, they do. It depends on the county they're in.
    It can also depend on their age, and how many priors they have.
    According to this, in TX, conviction of possession of less than a pound is probation and drug treatment unless you've been convicted of a felony.

    Texas - NORML

    I could be wrong, and there could be local laws that are more restrictive than each of these. However, even with these particular maximums, I very much doubt that many people in any counties are spending time in jail for possession of small amounts just because it's such a low priority for most prosecutors. I prosecuted kids for possession of **** like heroin and crack, and despite the fact that they had multiple priors, they were getting sentenced to treatment and probation. We rarely even bothered to follow through on the weed cases unless it was the 3rd or 4th time a kid had gotten busted.
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    Re: Phelps apologizes for 'bad judgment' after marijuana photo

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    According to this, in IL, if you have under 2.5g, it's probation on your first conviction, and up to 30 days with subsequent convictions.

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    According to this, in TX, conviction of possession of less than a pound is probation and drug treatment unless you've been convicted of a felony.

    Texas - NORML

    I could be wrong, and there could be local laws that are more restrictive than each of these. However, even with these particular maximums, I very much doubt that many people in any counties are spending time in jail for possession of small amounts just because it's such a low priority for most prosecutors. I prosecuted kids for possession of **** like heroin and crack, and despite the fact that they had multiple priors, they were getting sentenced to treatment and probation. We rarely even bothered to follow through on the weed cases unless it was the 3rd or 4th time a kid had gotten busted.
    In Livingston county they just spent millions on a new jail. They are looking to fill it. They also are big on punishing before they move on to actual narcotics. There is crime, but not enough to ignore the "gateway" drug. And while you may get probation on a first offense, you will still have to bond out of jail or wait to see the judge for a PR bond when they arrest you. They don't write tickets for under 2.5 grams. Some cops will confiscate it for personal use though which is always nice.
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    Re: Phelps apologizes for 'bad judgment' after marijuana photo

    Marijuana laws in the US are hilariously hypocritical. Bill Hicks has some damn funny quotes about them

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    Re: Phelps apologizes for 'bad judgment' after marijuana photo

    Quote Originally Posted by Degreez View Post
    Marijuana laws in the US are hilariously hypocritical. Bill Hicks has some damn funny quotes about them
    In the country where Rush Limbaugh can get pounds of **** he wasn't prescribed and the Olsen twins can openly confess to using cocaine. I'm not too worried about smoking weed while tattooing pig skins with Run DMC playing on my iPod. **** the police.
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    Re: Phelps apologizes for 'bad judgment' after marijuana photo

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    I can't believe he ****ing apologized for that. People that apologize for no goddamn reason when they've done nothing wrong really lose my respect.
    I thought the exact same thing! But.. Guess he did it because he is suppose to be a role model to the young kids

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    Re: Phelps apologizes for 'bad judgment' after marijuana photo

    while tattooing pig skins
    You lost me here.
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