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    Obama winning defections from GOP governors

    As I foretold, Obama has succeeded in splitting the GOP even further. His stimulus package has caused Republican governors to rebel against Capitol Hill Republicans on the stimulus package. The reason is simple: the governors need the money. They’re all broke. Schools, health care mandates, roads, bridges, deficits.

    “Hah, Ah’m Governor Barbour, when’s it mah turn to sit on Santa’s knee?”

    GOP govs break with party over stimulus - Politics- msnbc.com

    This won’t be the last time the governors revolt against the Washington Republicans. Already, governors like Haley Barbour and Rick Perry are fed up with the GOP hardliners on Capitol Hill, and are bragging that they deliver results while their Washington colleagues are flinging custard pies at Democrats. And a number of these guys, and one woman, are going to run for president, so they don't want to be dragged down by the party disasters in Washington. Barbour challenged Pence publicly: once a month we governors want to go to Washington, hear what you D.C. boys are up to, and give you our input. Y’all okay with that?

    So far, in fact, the 2012 presidential prospects seem to be governors – Romney, Pawlenty....All of them are playing the same game of have-your-cake-and-eat-it-too, to try to suck up to the pragmatists and hardliners both. The exception: Palin. She’s already been outed as a Nazi. She really, really needs a political makeover. But she’s smart and ambitious, and she’s got plenty of time. Look for her to concoct some sort of “Saint Paul on the road to Damascus” moment – “Hey, let’s build a wind farm, have a meetin’ with that Hamadeeneejad guy about those nuke-ya-lar bombs, spank those nasty CEO’s and rich folks, and give those homos a civil unions bill!”


    So the GOP is divided.
    Moderate against hardliner.
    Neocon versus supply-sider versus culture warrior.
    Senate GOP versus House GOP.
    Washington Republican versus Republican governors.

    And the task of uniting them all, and crafting and launching a winning strategy, is...Steele, a guy whose one major campaign was riddled with chaos, staff firings and resignations, public lies, bogus endorsement announcements, and finally a major butt-whupping by the voters in a heavily black state.

    If the Republican party was a stock, I think I’d be selling short Monday.

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    Re: Obama winning defections from GOP governors

    Quote Originally Posted by HelloDollyLlama View Post
    As I foretold, Obama has succeeded in splitting the GOP even further. His stimulus package has caused Republican governors to rebel against Capitol Hill Republicans on the stimulus package. The reason is simple: the governors need the money. They’re all broke. Schools, health care mandates, roads, bridges, deficits.

    “Hah, Ah’m Governor Barbour, when’s it mah turn to sit on Santa’s knee?”

    GOP govs break with party over stimulus - Politics- msnbc.com

    This won’t be the last time the governors revolt against the Washington Republicans. Already, governors like Haley Barbour and Rick Perry are fed up with the GOP hardliners on Capitol Hill, and are bragging that they deliver results while their Washington colleagues are flinging custard pies at Democrats. And a number of these guys, and one woman, are going to run for president, so they don't want to be dragged down by the party disasters in Washington. Barbour challenged Pence publicly: once a month we governors want to go to Washington, hear what you D.C. boys are up to, and give you our input. Y’all okay with that?

    So far, in fact, the 2012 presidential prospects seem to be governors – Romney, Pawlenty....All of them are playing the same game of have-your-cake-and-eat-it-too, to try to suck up to the pragmatists and hardliners both. The exception: Palin. She’s already been outed as a Nazi. She really, really needs a political makeover. But she’s smart and ambitious, and she’s got plenty of time. Look for her to concoct some sort of “Saint Paul on the road to Damascus” moment – “Hey, let’s build a wind farm, have a meetin’ with that Hamadeeneejad guy about those nuke-ya-lar bombs, spank those nasty CEO’s and rich folks, and give those homos a civil unions bill!”


    So the GOP is divided.
    Moderate against hardliner.
    Neocon versus supply-sider versus culture warrior.
    Senate GOP versus House GOP.
    Washington Republican versus Republican governors.

    And the task of uniting them all, and crafting and launching a winning strategy, is...Steele, a guy whose one major campaign was riddled with chaos, staff firings and resignations, public lies, bogus endorsement announcements, and finally a major butt-whupping by the voters in a heavily black state.

    If the Republican party was a stock, I think I’d be selling short Monday.
    Basically what this tells me is that these governors are unwilling to cut their overloaded budgets and are on board the Omnibus generational theft pork package the dems want to pass quickly before the people get wise to reading its over 600 pages.

    These governors should be cutting all non essential services.
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    Re: Obama winning defections from GOP governors

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Basically what this tells me is that these governors are unwilling to cut their overloaded budgets and are on board the Omnibus generational theft pork package the dems want to pass quickly before the people get wise to reading its over 600 pages.

    These governors should be cutting all non essential services.
    You mean schools, roads, hospitals? Tiffany luxuries and frivolities like that?

    Your assertions regarding the state budgets and the stimulus package are silly.

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    Re: Obama winning defections from GOP governors

    Quote Originally Posted by HelloDollyLlama View Post
    You mean schools, roads, hospitals? Tiffany luxuries and frivolities like that?

    Your assertions regarding the state budgets and the stimulus package are silly.
    They spend to much on schools. Why is more money needed for failure? Why are hospitals funded by the government, they should be private institutions.

    You should read some of the crap in the Omnibus generational theft pork package before making uninformed comments.
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    Re: Obama winning defections from GOP governors

    So the GOP is divided; what does that change?

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    Re: Obama winning defections from GOP governors

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    They spend to much on schools. Why is more money needed for failure? Why are hospitals funded by the government, they should be private institutions.

    You should read some of the crap in the Omnibus generational theft pork package before making uninformed comments.
    The thread shows clearly shows that I know a hell of a lot more about this package than you do. To say nothing of the politics.

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    Re: Obama winning defections from GOP governors

    Quote Originally Posted by HelloDollyLlama View Post
    The thread shows clearly shows that I know a hell of a lot more about this package than you do. To say nothing of the politics.
    I looked back over your post and all I saw was that you pointed out that the governors wanted special funding for their over bloated budgets that they are unwilling to heavily cut.

    Why should I support those governors or the pork package when all it will do is fund more unnecessary government programs and pass the cost on to people in their 30's downward. The "we want government to fix everything now" folks know nothing about economics.

    So hazaa! Appeals to special interests will cause the economy to turn around.
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    Re: Obama winning defections from GOP governors

    To summarize:

    "Politicians deviate from party line on an issue where they feel it will benefit their constituents to do so."

    Oh noes! This is truly the end of the republican party.
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    Re: Obama winning defections from GOP governors

    Quote Originally Posted by HelloDollyLlama View Post
    The thread shows clearly shows that I know a hell of a lot more about this package than you do. To say nothing of the politics.
    No, it says you didn't bother to read the article you posted. I only scanned it (I'm in the middle of watching some boring crap on TV, but since I didn't post the article, I'm not going to waste a lot of valuable Saturday afternoon time) and I don't see the massive defection. I do think in the future, you might want to read more than the headline.

    The most outspoken critic has been South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford, who has warned for months of a steep spike in inflation and a severely weakened dollar if Obama's plan passed. His state is on track to receive $2.1 billion of the stimulus money; Sanford has not yet said whether he would accept it.

    "It's incumbent on me as one of the nation's governors to speak out against what I believe is ultimately incredibly harmful to the economy, to taxpayers and to the worth of the U.S. dollar," Sanford said in an interview. "This plan is a huge mistake and is going to prolong and deepen this recession."

    Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, a former member of the House, said he would accept the stimulus money but would have voted against the bill if he were still in Congress. Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour, a former chairman of the Republican National Committee, said he wasn't sure whether he would accept the approximately $3 billion his state would be in line for.

    "Yes, we need some help and we appreciate the help," Barbour said in an interview. "But I don't know about the details and the strings attached to tell you if I'll take all of it or not."
    Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty, who is widely viewed as a potential presidential contender in 2012, said governors have little choice but to accept the relief being offered. "States have to balance their budgets," he said. "So if we're going to go down this path, we are entitled to ask for our share of the money."


    "I'm quite concerned about the federal government spending money it doesn't have," Pawlenty said. "We're on an unsustainable path of deficit spending and borrowing."

    Making fun of Barber's accent won't make you terribly popular with the southern members here. Calling Palin a nazi makes you an idiot, and suggesting a make-over for her makes you a sexist in my book. Have a nice day.
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    Re: Obama winning defections from GOP governors

    Quote Originally Posted by StandUpChuck's Article
    Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, a former member of the House, said he would accept the stimulus money but would have voted against the bill if he were still in Congress.
    Bobby Jindal is such a ****ing pussy. Stand by your principles you ****ing sally! I can't believe that there are people that want him to run for president next cycle.
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