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Iran says Obama's offer to talk shows US failure

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US President Barack Obama's offer to talk to Iran shows that America's policy of "domination" has failed, the government spokesman said on Saturday.

"This request means Western ideology has become passive, that capitalist thought and the system of domination have failed," Gholam Hossein Elham was quoted as saying by the Mehr news agency.

"Negotiation is secondary, the main issue is that there is no way but for (the United States) to change," he added.

After nearly three decades of severed ties, Obama said shortly after taking office this month that he is willing to extend a diplomatic hand to Tehran if the Islamic republic is ready to "unclench its fist".

In response, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad launched a fresh tirade against the United States, demanding an apology for its "crimes" against Iran and saying he expected "deep and fundamental" change from Obama.
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Iran says Obama's offer to talk shows US failure

Well look at that! Conservatives have said for years that people like those in control of Iran, Islamic Terrorist... and others respond not to appeasement, but strength, not to overtures of peace but to power.

Obama is not seen as a savior, but proof that America is weak, weak of spirit, weak of will and now lead by a weak man.

Folks, this is the start, and the weaker we seem, the more embolden these people will become. Good job America, we elected a wimp, and the world knows it.
 
President Obama offering to talk is a much better method than the Republican method of bomb first, questions later.

US was seen as pathetic under the cowboy people called a President.
 
MrVicchio said:
Iran says Obama's offer to talk shows US failure

Well look at that! Conservatives have said for years that people like those in control of Iran, Islamic Terrorist... and others respond not to appeasement, but strength, not to overtures of peace but to power.

Obama is not seen as a savior, but proof that America is weak, weak of spirit, weak of will and now lead by a weak man.

Folks, this is the start, and the weaker we seem, the more embolden these people will become. Good job America, we elected a wimp, and the world knows it.
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Mr V....always standing watch,thank you sir. What do you think will happen to "Israel", when Iran finds out Barry doesn`t really care about them?
 
Laila said:
President Obama offering to talk is a much better method than the Republican method of bomb first, questions later.

US was seen as pathetic under the cowboy people called a President.
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So, let me get this straight, it's better to be seen as civilized by EU Countries, and seen as weak by countries like Iran and those that share their view, instead of feared by said countries and not liked by the EU.

Got it.
 
US will never be seen as a european country. It is too different, i am saying that we have tried the stupid Republican way for the past 8 years and where has it got the rest of the world? Oh yes, UNSAFE.

The President has barely been in for a month and people are diving at him. I think his method will work very well in the Muslim world
 
MrVicchio said:
So, let me get this straight, it's better to be seen as civilized by EU Countries, and seen as weak by countries like Iran and those that share their view, instead of feared by said countries and not liked by the EU.

Got it.
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Did it ever occur to you that enemy nations ALWAYS test new presidents to see how they react? What other advice do you think we should take from the Iranian government?
 
Laila said:
President Obama offering to talk is a much better method than the Republican method of bomb first, questions later.

US was seen as pathetic under the cowboy people called a President.
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Good Lawd, I am so glad you can`t vote in our elections. WE have enough ultra,ultra liberals. Cowboy did well with his response to terrorism. Pathetic with the economy,we haven`t been attacked since 9-11. How are things going over there ? Thats cruel of me ,but sometimes the truth is just that.... I just thought of something. The English cowboy," Blair",kept you folks safe for quite a while . Thank all the Brit soldiers and sailors for serving.
 
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Way to give foreign propaganda legitimacy.
 
Kandahar said:
Did it ever occur to you that enemy nations ALWAYS test new presidents to see how they react? What other advice do you think we should take from the Iranian government?
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I spent 54 years of my life in that god damned liberal crap hole;Dayton,Ohio. Hows that piece of dung mayor doing ? Rework the precincts and you can get rid of that affirmative action problem . The Gem City,lies in ruins after (how many) years of affirmative action. I AM NOT a racist, I`m a parity racist... no make that fairness racist...no make that equal opportunity racist...,well you know !
 
Laila said:
US will never be seen as a european country. It is too different, i am saying that we have tried the stupid Republican way for the past 8 years and where has it got the rest of the world? Oh yes, UNSAFE.

The President has barely been in for a month and people are diving at him. I think his method will work very well in the Muslim world
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Which method ? The condoms or the abortion abortion funding ?
 
Rodney said:
Mr V....always standing watch,thank you sir. What do you think will happen to "Israel", when Iran finds out Barry doesn`t really care about them?
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Probably they'll be the second country to use Nuclear Weapons...

And Iran will have some new glass parking lots.
 
Kandahar said:
Did it ever occur to you that enemy nations ALWAYS test new presidents to see how they react? What other advice do you think we should take from the Iranian government?
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I'm not commenting about their advice, and I know other countries test new Presidents.

And you read between the lines, and it says "Weak ass Americans."
 
MrVicchio said:
Probably they'll be the second country to use Nuclear Weapons...

And Iran will have some new glass parking lots.
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Let's say all years ran together in some disgustingly pleasant montage, that there was no longer "time", and you were ignorant of how history unfolds. If the Soviet Union, under Stalin and this Iranian regime were present at the say tea-party, so to speak, which one would you be worried most about?
 
Arch Enemy said:
Let's say all years ran together in some disgustingly pleasant montage, that there was no longer "time", and you were ignorant of how history unfolds. If the Soviet Union, under Stalin and this Iranian regime were present at the say tea-party, so to speak, which one would you be worried most about?
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What a silly thing to discuss... however I'd be more worried about Stalin, just to play along. If I were Israel I'd worry Stalin would arm Iran and act even quicker.
 
MrVicchio said:
What a silly thing to discuss... however I'd be more worried about Stalin, just to play along. If I were Israel I'd worry Stalin would arm Iran and act even quicker.
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Yeah, but I used it to make a point and I didn't want you to jump the gun.

So if we went through, circa ,50 years of a highly dangerous and highly volatile and highly competitive Soviet Union (one could of course argue that the later parts were not so bad, as they were crumbling, and then Reagan smashed them; yes Futurama reference) and not a single nuclear weapon was used, then why would you suggest that Iran would use one?

I don't think the next use of a nuclear weapon will be by a nation-state. As Nation-States aren't that crazy. And by crazy, I mean they are not even half as crazy as Mr. Stalin.
 
Arch Enemy said:
Yeah, but I used it to make a point and I didn't want you to jump the gun.

So if we went through, circa ,50 years of a highly dangerous and highly volatile and highly competitive Soviet Union (one could of course argue that the later parts were not so bad, as they were crumbling, and then Reagan smashed them; yes Futurama reference) and not a single nuclear weapon was used, then why would you suggest that Iran would use one?

I don't think the next use of a nuclear weapon will be by a nation-state. As Nation-States aren't that crazy. And by crazy, I mean they are not even half as crazy as Mr. Stalin.
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The USSR was not driven by an ideology that promoted self sacrifice to achieve the Will of Allah. Iranian leaders have made it clear, they WILL Destroy Israel. Israel will not sit around and wait for that to happen.
 
MrVicchio said:
The USSR was not driven by an ideology that promoted self sacrifice to achieve the Will of Allah. Iranian leaders have made it clear, they WILL Destroy Israel. Israel will not sit around and wait for that to happen.
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You're wrong. There was a large will of self-sacrifice in order to better the state, and promote stability within the region through the systematic destruction of other entities. There was just not Allah. The state was infalliable, so the state took up the position of Allah.

I think Iran is just trying its damnest to cater to those who are against Israel. I see their threats as nothing more than talk. They understand that Israel is an American-backed forced in the region, and that they have to promote an anti-American sentiment otherwise they are at risk of losing the sphere of influence war in the region. A La Jihad Vs. McWorld.
 
Arch Enemy said:
You're wrong. There was a large will of self-sacrifice in order to better the state, and promote stability within the region through the systematic destruction of other entities. There was just not Allah. The state was infalliable, so the state took up the position of Allah.

I think Iran is just trying its damnest to cater to those who are against Israel. I see their threats as nothing more than talk. They understand that Israel is an American-backed forced in the region, and that they have to promote an anti-American sentiment otherwise they are at risk of losing the sphere of influence war in the region. A La Jihad Vs. McWorld.
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Do you really think the USSR was willing to risk annihilation? After WWII their main focus was on preventing another attack like that. They believed in Communism, but not to the point of dying for it enmasse.

Iranian theological leaders do however, believe that they are doing Allah's Will.
 
MrVicchio said:
Do you really think the USSR was willing to risk annihilation? After WWII their main focus was on preventing another attack like that. They believed in Communism, but not to the point of dying for it enmasse.

Iranian theological leaders do however, believe that they are doing Allah's Will.
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No. I don't think the USSR was willing to risk annihilation. I don't think Iran is willing to risk annihilation.

The misuse of religion, as a function of the state to promote a certain agenda, is not the product of a true belief, or serious belief, in that religion. I think these politicians in the bowels of Tehran are using religion as the Crusading Kings, and officials, did in Medieval Europe. A way to justify their greed, and a way to support their absurd lust for power.

However, I do not think these individuals are willing to lose support, and power, by destroying another nation-state. They realize, as do other nation-states, that we no longer live in a time where you can sack Carthage--rape,pillage, and burn-- and get away with it.
 
Rodney said:
I spent 54 years of my life in that god damned liberal crap hole;Dayton,Ohio. Hows that piece of dung mayor doing ? Rework the precincts and you can get rid of that affirmative action problem . The Gem City,lies in ruins after (how many) years of affirmative action. I AM NOT a racist, I`m a parity racist... no make that fairness racist...no make that equal opportunity racist...,well you know !
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What

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A racist is a racist.

There is no sugar-coating racism.

Even though I bet it would taste better if it did taste like skittles.
 
MrVicchio said:
I'm not commenting about their advice, and I know other countries test new Presidents.
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So then you should realize that Iran would be testing ANY new American president, whether it's Barack Obama or John McCain or Hillary Clinton or George Bush or Lyndon LaRouche or anyone else.

MrVicchio said:
And you read between the lines, and it says "Weak ass Americans."
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Under what set of circumstances do you think a buffoon like Ahmadinejad would NOT say something along those lines? What policies? What president?
 
independent_thinker2002 said:
Way to give foreign propaganda legitimacy.
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So wait, when the iran apologists claim that ahmonajihad said everything but what he actually said, about isreal, the holocost etc, not a peep out of you...


Now that Obama's first foreign policy foray is a falure, now, NOW ahmonajihad is illegitimate to you all? :doh
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
So wait, when the iran apologists claim that ahmonajihad said everything but what he actually said, about isreal, the holocost etc, not a peep out of you...


Now that Obama's first foreign policy foray is a falure, now, NOW ahmonajihad is illegitimate to you all? :doh
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Let's not make this about the Greatness that is independent_thinker2002.

Yeah, I can't believe it's me either. ;)
 
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