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Iran says Obama's offer to talk shows US failure

I'm glad that you see. If it's racist to prefer a White man be President rather than a Black man, then it's similarly racist to prefer a Black man be President rather than a White man. These voters are seeing individuals as racial symbols - that's racism.

Look, the New York Times labeled the voters of certain Appalachian districts as racist for increasing their vote percentage for McCain over prior elections. The presumption behind that article was that preferring a White President is a manifestation of racism. I work in a university and to see so many of my colleague gushing about a Black President was sickening, especially because these White liberals are so oblivious to their blatant racism.

I'm in an Appalachian district.
Is it possible to be racist against one's own race?
Furthermore, what did you expect with a black man running as President that race was not going to be an issue what-so-ever? people answered the poll truthfully, because it is not possible to vote when it's over the first black president and the millionth white person and not have color of skin as an minimum criteria.

Where do you work? What's your position?
 
When the issue of Iranian nukes first surfaced, the EU was criticizing the American Hard Power Approach and boldly stated that their Soft Power Approach would work wonders.

This is a vague generalization which means very little.

When did the "issue of Iranian nukes" first surface?

What was the "hard -power" approach that the US originally adopted?

In what way did the EU criticise it and in what capacity?

What did they suggest as an alternative?

The EU approach towards Iran has never been coherent. It's made up of 27 states each with different opinions of Iran and each with different interests relating to them. Any attempt to compare the influence US foreign policy can have on a country to that which EU "foreign policy" can have is rather confused.

The United States has far more it can offer Iran and many more ways in which it can hurt Iran. Direct negotiations between Iran and the US will yield far greater results for the Middle east than any talks between Iran and EU states, or the EU ever can.
 
Iran also called Bush a failure, and Clinton. There is always some reason coming out of their mouths for why the U.S. is less than. What does any of this have to do with how POTUS proceeds?

The only difference is that now instead of calling Iran crazy because it is unfairly attacking Bush, you (MrViccio) are saying they are right because Obama actually won the election. What a two-faced, hypocritical insult.
 
Iran also called Bush a failure, and Clinton.

Well, Bush actually was a failure.. Clinton was a success, and got his dick sucked because of it, so that less justified.

Bush however is stuck with the botox lady Laura Bush and her stiff facelifed face.
 
Iran is correct.

Osama bin laden said he would break America..and he did.

No ally of the USA can believe a word you people say.
No soldier of the US can believe a word you say.
No enemies of the USA can believe a word you say.


Obama is going to hand al Qaeda and Friends a Great Victory in Iraq over the undeniable success of our nations soldiers and the Iraqis. It will be one of the biggest betrayals ever witnessed in world history.
Our enemies will be more motivated then they have been probably ever.
Nobody including the US soldiers you people send to fight them in the "Right War"..will believe you are going to stick it out.

In fact the only question is how may body bags does it take to get the Americans to run away...Iraq showed you can be defeated cheap.
..and the Europeans even cheaper.
The west as a whole has shown its easy to break.
 
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Iran is correct.

Osama bin laden said he would break America..and he did.

No ally of the USA can believe a word you people say.
No soldier of the US can believe a word you say.
No enemies of the USA can believe a word you say.

Dont forget that the US is now very much disliked.
That people live in fear.
That they are only focused on terrorism at the cost of everything else(including economy)
That people in the west are also turning into extremists.
That our civil liberties are being washed away in the name of fighting terrorism.
...and much more negative effects that make it apparent that Bin Laden and Al Quaeda has already won.
 
Yes you hate the USA to an irrational level we all know that... :rofl

I hope the west turns towards the "extremists" because its clear as day that to stand up to Russia, China, and to fight Islamic Terrorists..you can't rely on your crowd at all.


..and besides my comments where just blunt assessments of the reality of what Obama and his crowd have declared will occur. Its alot worse when you don't mince words and try to lie about what will be the end result.
Theres always hope..hell Obama may leave office much much sooner then 4 years.
 
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Yes you hate the USA to an irrational level we all know that... :rofl

Yeah, and you all think that out of ignorance. You simply do not understand that political, democratic and economic reform is in the interest of the US, and Europe. Thats what I want, and you people are so far from understanding that such is needed that I have to resort to extreme methods in trying to tell you that things are not perfect in the US and Europe, and not all crap in other places.. You people are just blindly pro-American/European, and blindly anti-everyone else. You simply have no comprehension for the message I am trying to give. No wonder you think I am anti-American, and yourself are pro-Americans, when really it is the opposite.
 
Yeah, and you all think that out of ignorance. You simply do not understand that political, democratic and economic reform is in the interest of the US, and Europe. Thats what I want, and you people are so far from understanding that such is needed that I have to resort to extreme methods in trying to tell you that things are not perfect in the US and Europe, and not all crap in other places.. You people are just blindly pro-American/European, and blindly anti-everyone else. You simply have no comprehension for the message I am trying to give. No wonder you think I am anti-American, and yourself are pro-Americans, when really it is the opposite.

Right, 'coz your little "democracy sucks, non-elected elitists should rule" construct is SO in tune with traditional American principles.
 
Iran is correct.

Osama bin laden said he would break America..and he did.

No ally of the USA can believe a word you people say.
No soldier of the US can believe a word you say.
No enemies of the USA can believe a word you say.


Obama is going to hand al Qaeda and Friends a Great Victory in Iraq over the undeniable success of our nations soldiers and the Iraqis. It will be one of the biggest betrayals ever witnessed in world history.
Our enemies will be more motivated then they have been probably ever.
Nobody including the US soldiers you people send to fight them in the "Right War"..will believe you are going to stick it out.

In fact the only question is how may body bags does it take to get the Americans to run away...Iraq showed you can be defeated cheap.
..and the Europeans even cheaper.
The west as a whole has shown its easy to break.



Well the way you refer to the US as "you" obviously means that you don't live here. Well if thats the case, then I am going to politely ask yu to shut your mouth, and come here and see if you could live under extreme Conservativness for 8 years. Bush did a crap job. We got dfeated in Iraq because the only way to stop a civil war is to let it run its course. If the Shiites and Sunnis want to kill each other 150,000 American troops are not going to stop them and they will take them down with them.

Osama Bin Laden is a scumbag who desrves to be strapped to apiece of Uranium and shipped to the moon without a space suit.


Secondly, you are NOT Obama so you don't know how hes going to handle Afghanistan and Osama. Thirdly, Our allys can't believe a word BUSH says. Not us. HE represented us in a poor way and we are now trying to restore our credibility with the world.

So next time you refer to the US as a whole, as liars, I'd go find Osama and hide with him because the USA could kick your countries ass with three hands tied behinds its back in conventional warfare.

Hiding in buildings and blowing up cars from 5000 feet away is not conventional warfare.

So go bash your own country, not mine, because I will own you in the face.
 
Yes you hate the USA to an irrational level we all know that... :rofl

I hope the west turns towards the "extremists" because its clear as day that to stand up to Russia, China, and to fight Islamic Terrorists..you can't rely on your crowd at all.


..and besides my comments where just blunt assessments of the reality of what Obama and his crowd have declared will occur. Its alot worse when you don't mince words and try to lie about what will be the end result.
Theres always hope..hell Obama may leave office much much sooner then 4 years.

Wow. And letme guess Your leader is so muc better. Your probbaly from some Western European country, and they havent done much to stand up agaisnt terrorism and extremists. They just cowered like babies and let the US do the messy work and look like fools, then you have the nerve to dis the US like that after we protected YOUR country from terror attacks because your government was weak and cowardly. Your best off leaving this thread because you lost all credibility with me and other members who have some sort of nationalism fro their country.

Asshole.
 
See, even Iran thinks Obama is acting like a big *****.
 
See, even Iran thinks Obama is acting like a big *****.

And anyone that thinks Iran has any sense of credibility is just mornoic and idiotic. Iran's opinion means nothing to the world, minus Osama and his AlQaeda cronies.
 
Well you voted for him, and he gives credibility to Iran. What's that say about you?
 
Well you voted for him, and he gives credibility to Iran. What's that say about you?

Obama gave credibility to Iran? Do you know the definition of credibility? If so then show how. Otherwise Iran is just repeating what has been said MILLIONS of times. That the last 8 years of American foreign policy have been a failure of ridiculous proportions. You don't gain credibility from repetition.
 
See, even Iran thinks Obama is acting like a big *****.

Outstanding source. How could you go wrong when Iran agrees with you? :roll:
 
President Obama offering to talk is a much better method than the Republican method of bomb first, questions later.

US was seen as pathetic under the cowboy people called a President.

Don't forget to include the words, "Bring 'em on." That's tough talk, Laila, and shows what tough guys we are! :roll:
 
I'm not commenting about their advice, and I know other countries test new Presidents.

And you read between the lines, and it says "Weak ass Americans."

This may sound simple, but I know that a bully exudes weakness to me. Someone who would try to compromise with someone with whom they disagree exudes confidence and strength, IMO.
 
Outstanding source. How could you go wrong when Iran agrees with you? :roll:
I don't need a source to state my own opinion. Morons give way to much credibility to sources. What is a source, but nothing more than what someone else wrote. Get a grip.
 
President Obama offering to talk is a much better method than the Republican method of bomb first, questions later.

US was seen as pathetic under the cowboy people called a President.

We didn't bomb anybody first. There were negotiations.
 
This may sound simple, but I know that a bully exudes weakness to me. Someone who would try to compromise with someone with whom they disagree exudes confidence and strength, IMO.

To someone with your train of thought, but not to them.
 
Obama gave credibility to Iran? Do you know the definition of credibility? If so then show how. Otherwise Iran is just repeating what has been said MILLIONS of times. That the last 8 years of American foreign policy have been a failure of ridiculous proportions. You don't gain credibility from repetition.

Firstly, Iran doesn't need to be yakking about America's foreign policy, and dictating what we do. We should not be admitting that our foreign policy has been a ridiculous failure. I don't think this is ever a smart move. Iran is a pretty aggressive type country, so we don't need to gravel.

I think Obama's saying that if you talk and act aggressively towards us and our allies, it's ok, we'll back down and talk about nothing. How much you wanna bet the talks will break down like within the first 2 mins. There's probably absolutely nothing to talk about, and Jimmy Carter found this out, but yet he still talks that nonsense stuff that he did while in office. Look at Carter's history with Iran.
 
Obama gave credibility to Iran? Do you know the definition of credibility? If so then show how. Otherwise Iran is just repeating what has been said MILLIONS of times. That the last 8 years of American foreign policy have been a failure of ridiculous proportions. You don't gain credibility from repetition.

Yes, yes, yes, the last eight years have been a miserable failure. However Ahmademonjihad said "President Barack Obama should apologise for crimes committed by the United States against Iran over the past 60 years". That includes so called crimes against Iran during the GW Bush, Clinton, GHW Bush, Regan, Carter, Ford, Nixon, LB Johnson, Kennedy, Eisenhower, and Truman administrations.

I know its popular to be on the hate Bush band wagon but why is Ahmadickwad asking Obama to to apologise for the last 60 years and why do you single out Bush? What crimes against Iran were commited by the US during the GW Bush administration?
 
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This may sound simple, but I know that a bully exudes weakness to me. Someone who would try to compromise with someone with whom they disagree exudes confidence and strength, IMO.

Ok, so Iran's the bully, right? Gotta figure out who's doing what first, and exactly what type of aggressiveness they want to use on us. Wasn't Hitler a bully? He did a lot of damage for being weak. I'm not seeing strength and confidence with compromise with this particular country. We don't need to compromise, it's they that need to compromise, and I'm pretty sure that's never happened, and if it did, it would be for show. True compromise comes with actions, not just words.
 
Born and raised American and live in the USA.
SO no I will not shut my mouth when I watch my nations soldiers being betrayed by utter trash hiding behind nuances in language to cover up their betrayal...one of them disgustingly elected President.

Its because of that smiling joke in your avatar that my nation is being defeated by the enemy he and his supporters have decided to accept instead of fight.

Iraq is a success and has turned around so much its HUGE victory..But NO lets throw that away for morons who ignore it and Obama because he gave a damn speech 8 YEARS ago.


My nation is going to be put on its knees by that asshole. Many of you are going to excuse it and make excuses for the defeat you caused.
Thousands of DEAD US soldiers are going to be thrown away.
Millions of Veterans pissed on and declared losers because you guys just couldn't handle it.
al Qaeda is going to be handed a glorious victory in Iraq.
USA is going to say to our allies. We're running and its YOUR fault.
Millions of people will be left to the whims of our enemies.
Tens of Thousands of Iraqis who have fought with us in the mistaken belief we meant what we said will be betrayed.

Then Obama and his supporters turn right around and tell our soldiers AFTER we make you LOSE Iraq (regardless of the victory you have achieved) we'll send you to fight the same enemy but in Afghanistan with our promises of support in the "real WAR"..we mean it this time!

You're liars and the nation under you is 2 steps away form being joke. Next 4 years are our enemies as they have been handed the initiative by a crowd of losers who will never stand up.



You want it nice and prettied up with a cherry on tops to feel good about yourselves?

Well go to hell.... after 7+ years its clear the only thing al Qaeda has to fear from you guys is words..empty words.

I for one will not piss on my nations soldiers and LIE about historic fact to placate a bunch of human trash that sully the very name American by their existence.


We will all be able THANK Obama and his crowd for the most pathetic defeat of the US in its history. I for one intend to do that loudly and for the remainder of my life not only to make sure the losers remember they lost but also to remember those they betrayed.

Osama said you'd break and the Left in this nation which is now led by Obama has BROKE and been Broken since 9/11. The rest of us and much of the world will suffer for it..remains how much but it won't be cheap and you won't be able to count on the USA until it wakes the hell up.
 
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