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    Re: US Army suicides hit record high

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    Another point, The IQ of the average American military service ,man and woman, is above ...,(well above) national average.Its a high tech military requireing higher levels of mental function. Unfortunately these more wise men and women see more clearly...,and it is a massive stress to behold. I never wanted to commit suicide, but all these years later I still feel it, the stress. One part of my life I would do over is the military. It was a good thing. It just follows you around forever though.
    I thought long and hard about trying to go special ops when I was younger but made a promise to my family to graduate college and we were at a time of relative peace then, when 9/11 happened I was almost done, had that happened when I was just graduating H.S. I would have happily joined. I wish that the standards would go back to the much higher levels they were at post 1990's so that things like PTSD and increased suicides could be avoided, I feel that we owe it to those who willingly sacrifice for this country.
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    Re: US Army suicides hit record high

    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Nixon View Post
    BBC NEWS | Americas | US army suicides hit record high



    Damn shame. These soldiers need improved support. Or hell, better psychological screening for those who can't hack it. I'm not as wise on the subject as some here probably are so I don't know.
    I argue that you are wise,but to the points..., It is more a result of haveing been in any military capacity at all. In Germany during the Vietnam war they had such a severe problem with suicides, drugs addiction and severe depression (explosive rage followed by Volks Wagons being crushed by US tanks), that command heads rolled at the pentagon. Today ,47% of the homeless population in Nashville are veterans...,very intelligent,but very messed up,stressed out veterans. I was just in the middle of a crowd of them yesterday,(at Operation Stand Down) I hope I find work soon. Thanks for careing / your post....

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    Re: US Army suicides hit record high

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    I thought long and hard about trying to go special ops when I was younger but made a promise to my family to graduate college and we were at a time of relative peace then, when 9/11 happened I was almost done, had that happened when I was just graduating H.S. I would have happily joined. I wish that the standards would go back to the much higher levels they were at post 1990's so that things like PTSD and increased suicides could be avoided, I feel that we owe it to those who willingly sacrifice for this country.
    I think I just tried to clean your clock in another post,on another issue..., but thank you for careing ,and for your thoughtfulness here.

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    Re: US Army suicides hit record high

    Quote Originally Posted by Rodney View Post
    I think I just tried to clean your clock in another post,on another issue..., but thank you for careing ,and for your thoughtfulness here.
    It's the least we can do when considering that others will make these sacrifices.
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    Re: US Army suicides hit record high

    I know that the suicide rates went up high with the Viet Nam vets,after they returned home.A lot of that was survivor guilt.
    Also it's very hard to enter back into society, when 2 or 3 days before, you were shooting at, or being shot at by someone,in a war zone.
    I still remember being at a local drive in restaurant talking to, friends when a car drove by and backfired,everyone turned and looked for the offending car,me I was under my car waiting for incoming fire.
    Everyone thought it was funny I was under my car.
    Once you have been in harms way your life is different.

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    Re: US Army suicides hit record high

    Quote Originally Posted by rudedog View Post
    I know that the suicide rates went up high with the Viet Nam vets,after they returned home.A lot of that was survivor guilt.
    Also it's very hard to enter back into society, when 2 or 3 days before, you were shooting at, or being shot at by someone,in a war zone.
    I still remember being at a local drive in restaurant talking to, friends when a car drove by and backfired,everyone turned and looked for the offending car,me I was under my car waiting for incoming fire.
    Everyone thought it was funny I was under my car.
    Once you have been in harms way your life is different.
    This is why I have no problem with spending more on veterans for things like post war reentry programs and therapy, what really irks me is that we give prisoners more options than veterans and that is not right, we reward the scum and don't pay attention to those heros who put it all on the line. What I don't like about the reporting on this is it reads like a "gotcha" from a paper biased against the last administration, instead it should bring in people who's opinions can determine the problem and help eliminate or at least alleviate it, instead of using soldier tragedies as a political tool.
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    Re: US Army suicides hit record high

    Quote Originally Posted by Rodney View Post
    You continue to appear stupid and hateful of our military men and women. The God Damned terrorists are not innocents. The true source of the depression and suicides is much, much deeper than your mental capacity. As a veteran I COULD try to explain what it all feels like, but I`m guessing that you really don`t give a s**t. You are a bleeding heart liberal. **** YOU!
    I know a bit of my uncles problems. Taking out enemies isn't what messed him up. Having to blow up boats with many civilians purposely placed to try to keep seals from blowing them up did though.

    As for your little outburst. You should really get a lid on it.
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    Re: US Army suicides hit record high

    Quote Originally Posted by Rodney View Post
    The God Damned terrorists are not innocents.
    What about some of the non-terrorists? Is this guy full of nothing but bull****? YouTube - US Army Deserter - Iraq - dezerter - Bosnian sub- Part.1
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    Re: US Army suicides hit record high

    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Nixon View Post
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    Damn shame. These soldiers need improved support. Or hell, better psychological screening for those who can't hack it. I'm not as wise on the subject as some here probably are so I don't know.
    Its not a case of not "hacking it". You would be surprised as to the type of serviceman that suffers PTSD. Everyone has a breaking point its identifying the problem, then the trigger once this is established help can be administered.

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    Re: US Army suicides hit record high

    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Nixon View Post
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    Damn shame. These soldiers need improved support. Or hell, better psychological screening for those who can't hack it. I'm not as wise on the subject as some here probably are so I don't know.
    They should do a study on how this countries morally bankrupt family system has affected them.

    I know too many National Guardsmen who had a family and went overseas only to come back to find out how unfaithful their wives have been. All they came back to was a family torn apart. Todays america has extremely low family morals with people trading in their spouse on a whim every 5 years. Not even giving a thought to the children.

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