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    Re: US Army suicides hit record high

    Quote Originally Posted by Smoke[MaxX] View Post
    I'm just going to throw this out there, but could that possibly be a consequence of waging two unpopular wars and upping recruiting in poorer-income rural places?
    The popularity of the war should not affect suicides, in fact it has little or nothing to do with it. It has to do with facing the rigors of combat in a hostile environment for sometimes years.

    As for the comment about poorer income "rural" targets. Please post some evidence of this.



    Does not look like your comment can be backed up.

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    If we NEED 500,000 soldiers and only 550,000 apply, I'd imagine there's less of a selection process than if we need 250,000 and 400,000 apply.

    Just sayin'...
    That could be part of the problem, but I doubt it has very much to do with it.

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    Re: US Army suicides hit record high

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    So I guess if you possibly get into harms way, you can opt out of a legal contract? Does not work that way.

    Basic training has gotten more and more wimpy over the years. In my opinion it no longer prepares anyone for the rigors of combat. It used to weed the majority of those who could not hack it out. But not anymore, with the pussy ass running around in shorts etc they have now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RightOfCenter View Post
    What's wrong with shorts?
    Nothing really. It is just that we ran in boots and pants with a T. I guess I am a little jealous.

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    Re: US Army suicides hit record high

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    The popularity of the war should not affect suicides, in fact it has little or nothing to do with it. It has to do with facing the rigors of combat in a hostile environment for sometimes years.

    As for the comment about poorer income "rural" targets. Please post some evidence of this.



    Does not look like your comment can be backed up.



    That could be part of the problem, but I doubt it has very much to do with it.
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    Re: US Army suicides hit record high

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    So I guess if you possibly get into harms way, you can opt out of a legal contract? Does not work that way.

    Basic training has gotten more and more wimpy over the years. In my opinion it no longer prepares anyone for the rigors of combat. It used to weed the majority of those who could not hack it out. But not anymore, with the pussy ass running around in shorts etc they have now.
    People kill themselves because there is something they cannot live with. Me personally.. I could not live with myself if I murdered an innocent. Fighting someone that deserves to be fought would never make me feel the need to take my own life.
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    Re: US Army suicides hit record high

    Not many poor people show up at spring break. The jail sponsors a job fair and the Army was invited. So what?

    Posting this video was pretty much as waist of time as it has nothing to do with the topic, and nothing to do with my response.

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    Re: US Army suicides hit record high

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    People kill themselves because there is something they cannot live with. Me personally.. I could not live with myself if I murdered an innocent. Fighting someone that deserves to be fought would never make me feel the need to take my own life.
    Thats you, and even in that you are speculating on what? Your years of military training? Your years of personal combat experience? You are guessing about how you think you would do. It is amazing how far from reality peoples perceptions are when it comes to extreme situations of all types.

    I don't think anyone is innocent anymore.

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    Re: US Army suicides hit record high

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    People kill themselves because there is something they cannot live with. Me personally.. I could not live with myself if I murdered an innocent. Fighting someone that deserves to be fought would never make me feel the need to take my own life.
    You continue to appear stupid and hateful of our military men and women. The God Damned terrorists are not innocents. The true source of the depression and suicides is much, much deeper than your mental capacity. As a veteran I COULD try to explain what it all feels like, but I`m guessing that you really don`t give a s**t. You are a bleeding heart liberal. **** YOU!
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    Re: US Army suicides hit record high

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    The popularity of the war should not affect suicides, in fact it has little or nothing to do with it. It has to do with facing the rigors of combat in a hostile environment for sometimes years.

    As for the comment about poorer income "rural" targets. Please post some evidence of this.



    Does not look like your comment can be backed up.



    That could be part of the problem, but I doubt it has very much to do with it.

    Another point, The IQ of the average American military service ,man and woman, is above ...,(well above) national average.Its a high tech military requireing higher levels of mental function. Unfortunately these more wise men and women see more clearly...,and it is a massive stress to behold. I never wanted to commit suicide, but all these years later I still feel it, the stress. One part of my life I would do over is the military. It was a good thing. It just follows you around forever though.
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    Re: US Army suicides hit record high

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    So why weren't there more suicides during the Clinton years? Your criticism has no basis in fact. There are suicides today because the young men and women of the military are being asked to contribute too much. Their personal lives are ignored, and they are expected to suffer without complaint in the name of duty and country.
    We weren't in a major two front war at the time, so those serving were in peace time mode, now that the pressure is on, many can't handle the additional stress of war, that breaks down to training and is a tragedy.
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