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    Re: Mandate could force gas stations out of business

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Mom and pop hardware stations went our of business long ago because of Walmart, Lowes, and Home Depot. Where is the outcry there?

    As I asked before, can anyone answer, what is the additional operational costs minus the tax cuts for such additions?

    Can anyone tell us this, or is this just a tantrum?
    There WAS an outcry. Apparently you didn't hear it or ignored it.
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    Re: Mandate could force gas stations out of business

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    There WAS an outcry. Apparently you didn't hear it or ignored it.
    Again, I ask, what is the additional operational costs minus the tax write off?

    Can you answer that or are you just gonna cry "the man is keeping us down"?

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    Re: Mandate could force gas stations out of business

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Mom and pop hardware stations went our of business long ago because of Walmart, Lowes, and Home Depot. Where is the outcry there?

    As I asked before, can anyone answer, what is the additional operational costs minus the tax cuts for such additions?

    Can anyone tell us this, or is this just a tantrum?
    The smaller hardware stores didn't go out of business because of unreasonable government regulation. They went out of business because of competition. There's a difference.

    My corner hardware store has thrived the last 20 years despite a nearby Lowes.

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    Re: Mandate could force gas stations out of business

    Quote Originally Posted by sazerac View Post
    The smaller hardware stores didn't go out of business because of unreasonable government regulation. They went out of business because of competition. There's a difference.

    My corner hardware store has thrived the last 20 years despite a nearby Lowes.
    Well then you're lucky. If you are a good buisness you can adpapt to these changes.

    Again, I ask yet noone has answered, what is the cost minus the write off they get on taxes?

    Can anyone answer this or are all the responses emotional and not application?

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    Re: Mandate could force gas stations out of business

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Stuff has really hit the fan. I can not believe conservatives are writing stuff like this
    I don't see how it's incompatible with conservatism to say that if government wants to force a regulation on private businesses, they should help pay for it.
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    Re: Mandate could force gas stations out of business

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Again, I ask, what is the additional operational costs minus the tax write off?

    Can you answer that or are you just gonna cry "the man is keeping us down"?
    Sure, let me just get my accountant right on it, because obviously this is a completely pointless issue unless the exact numbers are provided to your satisfaction.
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    Re: Mandate could force gas stations out of business

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Mom and pop hardware stations went our of business long ago because of Walmart, Lowes, and Home Depot. Where is the outcry there?

    As I asked before, can anyone answer, what is the additional operational costs minus the tax cuts for such additions?

    Can anyone tell us this, or is this just a tantrum?
    April's requirements would have cost him $35,000, he said. Fasching used to sell the gasoline as a convenience for his car wash customers, and blames the new regulations for forcing him to stop.

    "It will have some effect on my business, but at least I have the relief that I don't have to deal with these people anymore," he said.
    Mandate could force gas stations out of business - Pasadena Star-News

    That's the number I can find, I know you think this is just whining and these small business owners should shut their traps and bow to the government but reality doesn't always bend to the whims of politicians.

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    Re: Mandate could force gas stations out of business

    If you are a good buisness you can adpapt to these changes.
    Was it even questionable whether bad business could adapt to any kind of change?
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    Re: Mandate could force gas stations out of business

    I am starting a list of sane people in California. Here is the first on my list and feel free to add your choice.

    1.) ____________
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    Re: Mandate could force gas stations out of business

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Question in regards to the original article is do those gas stations get an additional write off on taxes for this purchase?

    If so, what is the problem? Just syain
    Of course. That doesn't change the fact that they have to spend the money in the first place. And they can only depreciate new equipment over several years.

    The business has to spend thousands of dollars but only gets a tax write off worth hundreds of dollars. Being able to write an expense off doesn't mean it's free. You'd be much better off never buying the equipment if it doesn't help you earn money.

    You could write off as an expense all the new double walled fiberglass underground tanks the government forced all the mom and pop gas stations to install but that didn't keep them from having to sell out to Time Saver Gas and EZ Serve. It was too much money up front.
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