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    World's first out Prime Minister to take office

    Yes, Iceland now has a gay Prime Minister. She will probably not remain in office long, though, as her politics are not nearly as far to the left as Iceland's citizens want.

    Instead of focusing on the gay leader of Iceland, though, I would like to focus on how she got to be in office - Through the complete collapse of the banking system in Iceland.

    You know, I remember a time when Conservatives preached about fiscal responsibility, balancing the budget, and responsibility. The perverting of Conservative ideals through the greed and corruption that led to the banking crisis here in America is not confined to just America, though. It seems to be a worldwide phenomenon. It is not Conservatism that failed, but the leaders, both in America and elsewhere, who abandoned it to pursue the task of driving our nation, and its financial system, off a cliff. As a result, the Liberals have taken over. The Conservative ideals that were abandoned by its leaders will be blamed, and the damage done will last a generation.

    Conservatism, though, will make a comeback soon, sans Neocons, as the "hive mentality" is just not part of human nature. Throughout history, Liberals have gone too far with their agenda, and the result has always been a swing of the pendulum back the other way. Obama is no exception to this immutable law of political physics.

    The purpose of this thread is not to trash Obama and the Liberals, nor to smear them, nor to conduct character assassinations on them, but to merely point out that they are on the wrong side of history. This will eventually be borne out, starting in 2012. When that day comes, Conservatives had better be ready, and the party clean, with no trace left of the disastrous false ideology that permeated it in the last decade. If that is done right, then things will once again look bright for the Conservative movement. After all, nobody in their right minds truly want the government to be our nanny. As Barry Goldwater, and Davy Crockett before him, once said, "A government powerful enough to give you everything you want, is also powerful enough to take away everything you have".

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    Re: World's first out Prime Minister to take office

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Yes, Iceland now has a gay Prime Minister. She will probably not remain in office long, though, as here politics are not nearly as far to the left as Iceland's citizens want.

    Instead of focusing on the gay leader of Iceland, though, I would like to focus on how she got to be in office - Through the complete collapse of the banking system in Iceland.

    You know, I remember a time when Conservatives preached about fiscal responsibility, balancing the budget, and responsibility. The perverting of Conservative ideals through the greed and corruption that led to the banking crisis here in America is not confined to just America, though. It seems to be a worldwide phenomenon. It is not Conservatism that failed, but the leaders, both in America and elsewhere, who abandoned it to pursue the task of driving our nation, and its financial system, off a cliff. As a result, the Liberals have taken over. The Conservative ideals that were abandoned by its leaders will be blamed, and the damage done will last a generation.

    Conservatism, though, will make a comeback soon, sans Neocons, as the "hive mentality" is just not part of human nature. Throughout history, Liberals have gone too far with their agenda, and the result has always been a swing of the pendulum back the other way. Obama is not exception.

    The purpose of this thread is not to trash Obama and the Liberals, nor to smear them, nor to conduct character assassinations on them, but to merely point out that they are on the wrong side of history. This will eventually be borne out, starting in 2012. When that day comes, Conservatives had better be ready, and the party clean, with no trace left of the disastrous false ideology that permeated it in the last decade. If that is done right, then things will once again look bright for the Conservative movement. After all, nobody in their right minds truly want the government to be our nanny. As Barry Goldwater, and Davy Crockett before him, once said, "A government powerful enough to give you everything you want, is also powerful enough to take away everything you have".

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    I'm sorry, what do you have to back you up that the liberals will be kicked out in 2012, or so? how do you reach that? If I remember correctly, liberals ruled the white house essentially straight between 1932 and 1968, with the voters electing a democrat 7 times, and a fairly liberal republican 2 times. It could happen again.
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    Re: World's first out Prime Minister to take office

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    I'm sorry, what do you have to back you up that the liberals will be kicked out in 2012, or so? how do you reach that? If I remember correctly, liberals ruled the white house essentially straight between 1932 and 1968, with the voters electing a democrat 7 times, and a fairly liberal republican 2 times. It could happen again.
    1) I did NOT say that the Liberals will be kicked out in the year 2012, but instead, said that Conservatives would start taking back the government, STARTING in 2012. It will take a while, and several election cycles.

    2) There is no comparison to 1932 and 1968. These are different times.
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    Re: World's first out Prime Minister to take office

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    1) I did NOT say that the Liberals will be kicked out in the year 2012, but instead, said that Conservatives would start taking back the government, STARTING in 2012. It will take a while, and several election cycles.
    What makes you think this, exactly? It hasn't always happened historically, is what I'm saying.

    2) There is no comparison to 1932 and 1968. These are different times.
    As I see it, 1932, where Roosevelt got elected and started the New Deal was the beginning of a liberal era in government. 1968, where Nixon won by being hard on crime and hippies, was the end of the era, and the beginning of a new, conservative era. I believe that era ended in 2008, and we'll see a new era last untill about 2048.
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    Re: World's first out Prime Minister to take office

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Yes, Iceland now has a gay Prime Minister. She will probably not remain in office long, though, as her politics are not nearly as far to the left as Iceland's citizens want.

    Instead of focusing on the gay leader of Iceland, though, I would like to focus on how she got to be in office - Through the complete collapse of the banking system in Iceland.

    You know, I remember a time when Conservatives preached about fiscal responsibility, balancing the budget, and responsibility. The perverting of Conservative ideals through the greed and corruption that led to the banking crisis here in America is not confined to just America, though. It seems to be a worldwide phenomenon. It is not Conservatism that failed, but the leaders, both in America and elsewhere, who abandoned it to pursue the task of driving our nation, and its financial system, off a cliff. As a result, the Liberals have taken over. The Conservative ideals that were abandoned by its leaders will be blamed, and the damage done will last a generation.

    Conservatism, though, will make a comeback soon, sans Neocons, as the "hive mentality" is just not part of human nature. Throughout history, Liberals have gone too far with their agenda, and the result has always been a swing of the pendulum back the other way. Obama is no exception to this immutable law of political physics.

    The purpose of this thread is not to trash Obama and the Liberals, nor to smear them, nor to conduct character assassinations on them, but to merely point out that they are on the wrong side of history. This will eventually be borne out, starting in 2012. When that day comes, Conservatives had better be ready, and the party clean, with no trace left of the disastrous false ideology that permeated it in the last decade. If that is done right, then things will once again look bright for the Conservative movement. After all, nobody in their right minds truly want the government to be our nanny. As Barry Goldwater, and Davy Crockett before him, once said, "A government powerful enough to give you everything you want, is also powerful enough to take away everything you have".

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    I didn't read all that. Are you trying to tell us you're a gay?
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    Re: World's first out Prime Minister to take office

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    What makes you think this, exactly? It hasn't always happened historically, is what I'm saying.



    As I see it, 1932, where Roosevelt got elected and started the New Deal was the beginning of a liberal era in government. 1968, where Nixon won by being hard on crime and hippies, was the end of the era, and the beginning of a new, conservative era. I believe that era ended in 2008, and we'll see a new era last untill about 2048.
    I believe you have your 1968 confused. Ford lost in 1976, when Jimmy Carter won the Presidency. Democrats, and Liberalism, controlled everything for another 4 years. Ronald Reagan ended that though, and a new period of Conservatism ensued, beginning in 1980. My contention is that Obama will be much like Carter, in that he will attempt to do too much. Whether he lasts only one term, or makes it through 2 terms, the result will be the same - The pendulum going too far to the left, and eventually events warranting a swing back to the right, or possibly to the center.
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    Re: World's first out Prime Minister to take office

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    As I see it, 1932, where Roosevelt got elected and started the New Deal was the beginning of a liberal era in government. 1968, where Nixon won by being hard on crime and hippies, was the end of the era, and the beginning of a new, conservative era. I believe that era ended in 2008, and we'll see a new era last untill about 2048.
    I personally believe we are going to be entering a cycle where the overall power in Washington changes hands every 4-6 years. I think America is a much more fickle and demanding place now. We have an "on-demand" society that didn't exist back then.
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    I didn't read all that. Are you trying to tell us you're a gay?
    Nope, but that would sure shock the crap out of my wife if I was.
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    Re: World's first out Prime Minister to take office

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I believe you have your 1968 confused. Ford lost in 1976, when Jimmy Carter won the Presidency. Democrats, and Liberalism, controlled everything for another 4 years.
    Carter only won because Nixon was such an asshat. Carter only won by a small margin, and that was because of watergate. If it hadn't been for watergate, the republicans would have almost assuredly won in 76.

    Ronald Reagan ended that though, and a new period of Conservatism ensued, beginning in 1980. My contention is that Obama will be much like Carter, in that he will attempt to do too much. Whether he lasts only one term, or makes it through 2 terms, the result will be the same - The pendulum going too far to the left, and eventually events warranting a swing back to the right, or possibly to the center.
    But what if he's another FDR, and we see another liberal period? As to Reagan and Nixon, Nixon ran his campaign on issues of security and strength (and coded racism) that first peeled away southerners and northern ethnics from the Democratic party. Reagan essentially ran by running on the same themes Nixon did, and they've mostly been the same themes all modern Republicans have run on. That's why I peg it at 1968.
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    Danahea posted ("A government powerful enough to give you everything you want, is also powerful enough to take away everything you have".)

    Kind of thought it was Jefferson that said this. Not so?

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