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    Obama finds room for lobbyists

    How many of you remember Obama's promise, made during his campaign, that lobbyists would have no place in an Obama administration? Turns out that we have replaced one liar in the White House with another liar in the White House.

    The issue here, folks, is quite simple. Either Obama lied, or Obama did not lie. This is the question that I ask Obama supporters right now. You guys were quite vocal about Bush lying. Are you going to be consistent and call Obama out for his untruthfulness too, or are you going to come up with partisan excuses for him, like Bush supporters did during his administration? And don't come up with "Bush's lies were worse". A lie is a lie is a lie is a lie. Aren't you a little miffed right now that the man you supported went back on his word, and treated you like a chump?

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    Re: Obama finds room for lobbyists

    Obama lied. This thread will be avoided like so many pointing out the emporers fine new duds often are.


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    Re: Obama finds room for lobbyists

    It's worth reposting the list as well:

    Here are former lobbyists Obama has tapped for top jobs:

    Eric Holder, attorney general nominee, was registered to lobby until 2004 on behalf of clients including Global Crossing, a bankrupt telecommunications firm.

    Tom Vilsack, secretary of agriculture nominee, was registered to lobby as recently as last year on behalf of the National Education Association.

    William Lynn, deputy defense secretary nominee, was registered to lobby as recently as last year for defense contractor Raytheon, where he was a top executive.

    William Corr, deputy health and human services secretary nominee, was registered to lobby until last year for the Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids, a non-profit that pushes to limit tobacco use.

    David Hayes, deputy interior secretary nominee, was registered to lobby until 2006 for clients, including the regional utility San Diego Gas & Electric.

    Mark Patterson, chief of staff to Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner, was registered to lobby as recently as last year for financial giant Goldman Sachs.

    Ron Klain, chief of staff to Vice President Joe Biden, was registered to lobby until 2005 for clients, including the Coalition for Asbestos Resolution, U.S. Airways, Airborne Express and drug-maker ImClone.

    Mona Sutphen, deputy White House chief of staff, was registered to lobby for clients, including Angliss International in 2003.

    Melody Barnes, domestic policy council director, lobbied in 2003 and 2004 for liberal advocacy groups, including the American Civil Liberties Union, the Leadership Conference on Civil Rights, the American Constitution Society and the Center for Reproductive Rights.

    Cecilia Munoz, White House director of intergovernmental affairs, was a lobbyist as recently as last year for the National Council of La Raza, a Hispanic advocacy group.

    Patrick Gaspard, White House political affairs director, was a lobbyist for the Service Employees International Union.


    Michael Strautmanis, chief of staff to the president’s assistant for intergovernmental relations, lobbied for the American Association of Justice from 2001 until 2005.
    Bolded some of the ones that seem most egregious to me.
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    Re: Obama finds room for lobbyists

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    It's worth reposting the list as well:

    Here are former lobbyists Obama has tapped for top jobs:



    Bolded some of the ones that seem most egregious to me.
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    Re: Obama finds room for lobbyists

    This should not come as any surprise to anyone. Obama went back on his word after the primaries also. Public Financing comes to mind as one of the big ones. That is a bad precedent he set on that.

    It is no surprise to me that he is continuing to go back on his word with lobbyists, and he will keep it up on other issues.

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    Re: Obama finds room for lobbyists

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    It's worth reposting the list as well:

    Here are former lobbyists Obama has tapped for top jobs:



    Bolded some of the ones that seem most egregious to me.

    Meh.

    What does that mean, anyway? Because they were lobbyists, they are not qualified for the job? Conflict of interest?

    Me, I'd wait to see how they perform before making any critique. Unless, of course, their credentials seem way off for the position. Say like a horse competition judge.
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    Re: Obama finds room for lobbyists

    Tom Vilsack, secretary of agriculture nominee, was registered to lobby as recently as last year on behalf of the National Education Association.
    Obvious conflict of interest, eh? I am OUTRAGED!
    Oh, and what about this one...another example of outrageous influence.

    William Corr, deputy health and human services secretary nominee, was registered to lobby until last year for the Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids, a non-profit that pushes to limit tobacco use.
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    Re: Obama finds room for lobbyists

    Look at this way, there are far far far far fewer lobbyists in an Obama administration than there would have been in a McCain administration. A huge chunk of McCain's main campaign staff and backers were lobbyists, and I dont doubt for a second that they would have had top jobs in his administration.
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    Re: Obama finds room for lobbyists

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    Obvious conflict of interest, eh? I am OUTRAGED!
    No conflict of interest as it follows the Cheney exception.........
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    Re: Obama finds room for lobbyists

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post

    Discussion, anyone?

    I'm kinda disappointed. Especially at the amount of lobbyists he is putting in top positions. It's not like it's one or two, it's 12! That's a whole lots BS if you ask me.
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