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    Re: Obama finds room for lobbyists

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    No lobbyists are a problem. They need to be regulated and monitored, which is what is occurring.
    Except the ones obama really really likes.
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    Re: Obama finds room for lobbyists

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    No lobbyists are a problem. They need to be regulated and monitored, which is what is occurring.
    It was occurring before.

    And regulating and monitoring doesn't address the real problem, Obama, once again, abandoning a core campaign promise to change the game in Washington.

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    Re: Obama finds room for lobbyists

    Ever feel good about what you've wrote and the point you're making and then look back at some of the things being said by other people making similar points and just want to put your head in your hands, shake your head, and mutter curses.

    Yeah...yeah, not a fun feeling.

    I swear to god with the idiotic names that get thrown around here on both sides I'd think I'm in grade school, not a political message board. I'm afraid peoples head may explode if an entire thread referenced Bush as Bush, Obama as Obama, and their supporters as supporters. Screw the "Doomsday Device" in Europe, I think THAT would cause the world to implode.

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    I wonder how many people in this thread posted in the "The treatment of Bush is a disgrace" thread and what their stances were.
    I'd say a vast majority of them on both sides.

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    Re: Obama finds room for lobbyists

    Quote Originally Posted by JMak View Post
    Gibberish, it doesn't matter whether you judge it naive. Your judgment ain't a basis for defending Obama's total abandonment of a central campaign principle.

    Obama certainly didn't think it was naive.
    Obama passed the ethics rule on January 21. There are now regulations in place and processes and monitoring of the exceptions. He obviously took steps to limit lobbyists that previous Presidents never cared to.

    "total abandonment of a central campaign principle." is pretty melodramatic.

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    Obama certainly didn't think it was naive.
    Why? Because he didn't setup a press conference to state such a thing?
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    Re: Obama finds room for lobbyists

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Except the ones obama really really likes.
    I didn't know you had evidence to show that it was Obama and not Gate that requested Lynn's placement. Please do share.
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    Re: Obama finds room for lobbyists

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Ever feel good about what you've wrote and the point you're making and then look back at some of the things being said by other people making similar points and just want to put your head in your hands, shake your head, and mutter curses.

    Yeah...yeah, not a fun feeling.

    I swear to god with the idiotic names that get thrown around here on both sides I'd think I'm in grade school, not a political message board. I'm afraid peoples head may explode if an entire thread referenced Bush as Bush, Obama as Obama, and their supporters as supporters. Screw the "Doomsday Device" in Europe, I think THAT would cause the world to implode.



    I'd say a vast majority of them on both sides.
    Exactly.....
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    Re: Obama finds room for lobbyists

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    I didn't know you had evidence to show that it was Obama and not Gate that requested Lynn's placement. Please do share.



    Please do tell me how you find this relevant. The buck stops with whom, and whose promises.
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    Re: Obama finds room for lobbyists

    Quote Originally Posted by JMak View Post
    It was occurring before.

    And regulating and monitoring doesn't address the real problem, Obama, once again, abandoning a core campaign promise to change the game in Washington.
    How does it not address the problem? Is it your opinion that someone who is the top choice for a job should be denied it because they worked for a corporation that does business with the government?
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    Re: Obama finds room for lobbyists

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    How does it not address the problem? Is it your opinion that someone who is the top choice for a job should be denied it because they worked for a corporation that does business with the government?
    When you make the statement that "[lobbyists] won't work in my White House.", your answer to that question is "yes".

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    Re: Obama finds room for lobbyists

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    When you make the statement that "[lobbyists] won't work in my White House.", your answer to that question is "yes".
    Technically, he'll work in the Pentagon.
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